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with pretty much i'm pretty i'm pretty

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sure it was covered had all the signs i

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lost my smell i lost

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tooth problem had to have tooth surgery

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youtube because i know there are people

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before you guys should go on twitter you

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should go on twitter andrew speier a

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person i have not seen with a lot in a

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andy and i worked on pawn stars andy

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worked at the store i worked on the show

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glad you're around andy good to see you

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i was sick got over it and now i'm back

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we now have the official ufo office that

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biden signed into law um

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nothing new on that we're waiting you

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know thank god for kirsten gillibrand

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congressman gallego they were the

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driving forces and why we have an

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official ufo office

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you know the under secretary of defense

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for intelligence that office that lou

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came from they're gonna squash

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everything and they're gonna they have

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program called our office called the

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a let's see aoi i wrote it down aoi msg

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which is ridiculous but let's just be

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weinstein and he'll put off transcript

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somebody's trying to come in but their

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devices are not connected so i don't

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know how that works um but if you use i

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his time was limited but he fought and

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about his accomplishments the only media

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that covered his ufo

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activism for lack of a better word was

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you have no interest in ufos how do you

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skinwalkers in the pentagon which is a

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great read and these reporters just

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reporters and say how do you not

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bryce zabel it's just embarrassing if

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cover the man's life

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airport which is now harry reid

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international airport and they spoke

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they're still not giving they're still

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not sharing information we're not

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evangelical christians and those folks

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about it these folks really make it

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difficult to study ufos and anything

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other reasons for the secrecy but those

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the collins elite which is not in a

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official group you know it's loosely

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loosely uh organized group of folks who

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we're dealing with are demons

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him on this topic yet here's hoping

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audio video print but as far as some big

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blockbuster that he recorded before he

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that book is gary nolan

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scientist at stanford and that's a big

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put two and two together

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university and it talks in the book

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about his family being experienced so

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the media will pick up on it i don't

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see her put it out there and he did not

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deny it he just joked around with it

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hi joe great interview info that you've

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been putting out there also i'm liking

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the ross coulter has been doing an

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amazing job he has the guts to ask the

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tough questions and respect to get an

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answer ross was one of my sources back

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then

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2020 that i i

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i put

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i'm trying to think of the right wording

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i am

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i would ask ross hey i'm working on the

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mega blog and i would throw something at

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ross what do you think about that so he

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was a really valuable resource me for me

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back then he's been really

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great about sharing information to help

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so back to what i was saying um so the

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collins elite

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i started listening to interviews with

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redfearn and he's basically saying the

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collins elite believe that these are

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demons and originally he said he spoke

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to i think seven members of the collins

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elite one of them was a senior member

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allegedly i don't know how you confirm

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that because they don't they're not a

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real organization like in the government

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it's loosely

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organized not official

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one of your transcripts recent coastal

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coast interview lou you mentioned a few

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names who've been problematic to the

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release of uap info

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yeah i don't know i put that out there

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i don't want to i don't want to dox

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people i don't want

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that i i am confident with those names

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i don't know anything about them

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marcel letra was mentioned in

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skinwalkers at the pentagon but him and

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the other person

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were

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allegedly instrumental in killing the

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ossap program they played a large role

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in that so

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i don't really don't know what to do

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with that information it's like what are

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we gonna do i mean okay

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i mean yeah their name is out there but

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it's not like we should

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do anything

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i'm really careful i know i know

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recently when

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george knapp interviewed lou and they

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mentioned i think it was gary reed it's

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like that's the guy that's you know not

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too thrilled with lou i think it was i

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know it was lou superior um

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but i don't want to go on like i'm a

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a witch hunt against these folks but you

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know

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they still wield as far as keeping this

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information secret i don't and i and i

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was talking with merrick i forget

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merrick's last name but he he wrote he

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writes a lot of articles for the hill a

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lot of op-eds if you've seen recently

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he's done a great job but he

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he's like there's no government he

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doesn't think there's a government-wide

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cover-up i agree i agree the people who

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know the information it's not it's not

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the entire government or the majority of

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the government it's pockets within the

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government certain stove pipes pipes

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certain people in special access

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programs i don't know how much i think

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you have levels you have people who know

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yes there are ufo

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videos that are unbelievable

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not just our country i'm not and i heard

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that i mean we already have heard that

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from lou too

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and then hal put off said to eric

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weinstein he's like

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as good as you would expect or hope

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there are yes there are videos out there

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but then you have another level with the

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alleged crash retrieval program and

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other data which is stored in you know

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as far as i know on unacknowledged

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special access programs and

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eric davis has said the amount of people

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who have

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access to those programs is so tiny so

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it's a very small amount of people who

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have that information

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lockheed i did not know that and i don't

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know if lockheed is the one that has

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the alleged crash retrieval program i

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don't know eric davis has said no if he

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read my

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mega blog he said no that no lockheed is

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not but

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i don't know um

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and i really don't get wrapped up people

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like you should look at this company

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this company

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it's not going to be up to us to get

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that

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information out i don't know if they'll

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ever like say congress does find out

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that we have a crescent people program

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you know eric davis gave them

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information according to chris mellon

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because chris mellon was on capitol hill

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when eric davis gave briefings to the

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you know what i'm gonna take a break

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eric davis

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2019 gave a couple of

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classified briefings he said

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to the senate select intelligence

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committee and the senate armed services

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committee and the dod agency which was

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reported in the new york times and

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christopher mellon said that he was

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there

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for those briefings and he said eric

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gave them enough information where they

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can go check so let them go check

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whether or not if they do let's say they

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find it first of all do they have access

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if they're not on the bigot list they're

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not gonna have access but if they do get

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access i don't think they're gonna just

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say by the way americans uh in the world

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we just found the craft from roswell or

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we found the craft from

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the trinity crash in 45 i don't think

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that's going to happen but

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you know lou said if you're looking for

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bodies and

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he i don't know if he said crash

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retrieval and bodies but he said if

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you're looking for bodies and that

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information to come out now he goes you

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better just go find a hobby because

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that's not happening right now he said

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come back come back in five years check

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back with us in five years now if we get

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information about bodies in five years

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i'll be pretty happy because i've been

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at this for such a long time five years

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is nothing to me i don't see anything

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happening

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full disclosure anytime soon there are

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people that disagree with disagree with

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me but

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as i say patience

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i'm trying to see

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yes peter

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hello to you too

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i don't expect

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i know people want

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public hearings in congress

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you know somebody told me privately

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they don't think private public hearings

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are coming this year i i hope that's

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wrong but that's just what i heard

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um

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yeah i agree troy i mean

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five years if we can get it

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if you have patience you see five years

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people are like five years but stuff

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will happen along the way it's not like

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we're not gonna get information

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information is gonna come out this year

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the question is how much i don't think

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it's going to be with everybody not

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everybody but some people

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think we're having this imminent

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disclosure and

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obviously anything can change at any

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time

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especially with the phenomenon you know

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those unknown objects that you know

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swarmed the navy ships out on the west

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coast that could happen again that was

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only two years ago

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so

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and no i don't think that was russia in

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china um some people are saying like the

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people i've spoken to they're like no no

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even the higher even the higher ups

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don't know what those objects were

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um so those are a true mystery

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and

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crash retrieval records i i would think

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we would get both at the same time if we

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do get it in my lifetime

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um so yeah

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and yeah

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i i'm not gonna be i think we should

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give amnesty for people for keeping the

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secret and i've said before though if

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somebody committed violence or

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intimidation violence

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we have to look at each case on a

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case-by-case basis i don't know if

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violence has been committed

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to keep the secret i know we hear that

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but

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specific cases i don't know about

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somebody pointed it out to me and it's

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like you know you always hear those

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stories but do we have any specifics

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yeah big a little said it bigelow said

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it's right under our noses but i'm not

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really sure what that means i mean that

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could mean a lot of things i mean he's

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had poltergeists like

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poltergeist like activity in his home

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with his late be you know him and his

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late wife had it um and he didn't he

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said he didn't realize it would last as

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long as he has um

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and

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ramirez calls it a scheduled

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dissemination of information instead of

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disclosure the

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yeah i don't know i go back and forth on

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that um

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you know eric davis says no that's not

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what's going on he's like

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and he says that if anything the

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phenomenon drives it meaning

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when you have events like 2019 2015 on

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the east coast

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2019 was the west coast that's when you

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start seeing

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people saying what's going on here we

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need to we need to look into this and

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that's what's driving it not that it's

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some control he's not talking about a

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control mechanism he's just talking

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about

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these events happen and

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they get reported and some of the speak

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you know 2004 you know those guys all

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spoke about their incident once it came

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out the tic tac incident

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so as far as a scheduled dissemination

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of information like i said eric davis in

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his interview with stephen greenstreet

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said no that's no it was uh in his

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interview with uh

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alejandra rojas 2019 he said no that's

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it's a big conspiracy that people think

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there's this group just letting this out

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slowly

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but you know i could be wrong he could

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be wrong i i don't think so but

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you know the i don't know but as long as

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the information keeps coming out i don't

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care as lou said lou said uh at one

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point he says

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people think it's some psyop he's like

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well let's say it is a psy you're

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getting the information so it's really

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do you really care

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uh of course it depends on what kind of

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site we're talking about and what the

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end game is but yeah we're getting

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information for the first time since i

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got into this

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and that's that's right i have to

561
00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:29,679
explain how i got into the subject i

562
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:31,360
promised a couple of people

563
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:32,640
um

564
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,080
i thought we would have i got into this

565
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:35,919
96 or so and i thought we would have

566
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:38,480
disclosure by 2000 so for me to see

567
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:40,960
what's going on now is just amazing

568
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:43,200
um because there was a lull for a long

569
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,640
time where it was just you know new

570
00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:46,240
books were coming out nothing major and

571
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:48,240
i was getting bored i'm like all right

572
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:49,520
i'm not going to pay attention as much

573
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:51,200
as i have in the past

574
00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:53,200
and then 2017 happened and then that

575
00:22:04,710 --> 00:21:59,750
i could see many reasons for not

576
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,510
yeah

577
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,679
i can't see that not playing a role

578
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:10,000
especially if

579
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,960
extraterrestrial and people like well

580
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:14,400
that would be a big story i think they

581
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:15,679
would have to think twice about letting

582
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:17,919
that information out but

583
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:18,559
you know what if they're

584
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:20,559
interdimensional beings that some people

585
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:22,000
are gonna say they're demons i think

586
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,280
they'd be

587
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:25,200
a little hesitant to say yeah they can

588
00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:26,960
move among us and we can't really see

589
00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:28,080
them because they operate in the

590
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:29,840
electromagnetic spectrum that we really

591
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,080
can't see unless we have instruments and

592
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,480
they sometimes can influence us because

593
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,559
that's the story with um

594
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:38,960
paul eno who somebody introduced me to

595
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:41,360
his works and he he

596
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:44,480
he said in 1973 long time paranormal

597
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,200
paranormal investigator he said in 1973

598
00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:49,919
he was working with 20 uh seven

599
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:52,960
exorcist uh folks they were supposedly

600
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,240
possessed and he was working with a

601
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:57,039
priest and five of the seven people who

602
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:59,600
were allegedly possessed had had ufo

603
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:00,880
encounters so there's some sort of

604
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,559
connection i don't know if the

605
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,720
phenomenon is connected to that or maybe

606
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,000
this is something separate that was

607
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:08,640
mimicking ufo sightings i don't know but

608
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:10,080
there's some sort of connection and

609
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:11,520
whether or not it's one intelligence

610
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:13,520
here or a whole bunch of different ones

611
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,240
time travelers e.t interdimensional

612
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:17,760
i don't know i go back and forth i've

613
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:18,799
heard different things from different

614
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,120
people most folks say we don't know we

615
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:23,039
just don't know

616
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:24,720
i think they know what some of them look

617
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:26,159
like but that doesn't tell you where

618
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:27,840
they are doesn't tell you what they are

619
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,880
uh

620
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:30,720
you know i don't know how you would

621
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:33,200
figure that out unless we have data that

622
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:34,799
shows them coming from

623
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:36,640
way out in deep space and as far as i

624
00:23:40,149 --> 00:23:38,559
know

625
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:40,159
i read it was a message board by

626
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:41,919
somebody who has had clearances and they

627
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:42,799
said

628
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,279
yeah that data doesn't exist as far as

629
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:47,200
what i've seen but maybe it's locked up

630
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,880
in some special access program they

631
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,960
didn't say special access program they

632
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:53,120
said that data could exist that shows

633
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:54,880
they're coming from another planet but i

634
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,029
just going through some of your comments

635
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,269
the aurora i remember the

636
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,679
aurora hearing about it

637
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,279
that mentioned some folks experiencing

638
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:11,120
hitchhiker effects after merely reading

639
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:13,039
skin workers at the pentagon i have not

640
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:15,679
where did he say that i did not see that

641
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,000
um

642
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:20,640
i mean i was working on

643
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,000
skin war a skinwalker

644
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,240
no as far as i i have not really had you

645
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:28,000
know you start getting paranoid you read

646
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:29,760
some of these cases where people drove

647
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,159
by a haunted location and then they said

648
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:34,320
they had some hitchhikers type stuff

649
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:36,400
come come home with them but me

650
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:38,960
personally no i had one experience here

651
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:40,799
uh like a ball of light went outside but

652
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:41,919
i don't think i don't think i was

653
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:43,919
working on anything skinwalker related

654
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:46,799
at the time

655
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:49,039
yeah i don't i have not heard that as

656
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:50,880
far as reading the book

657
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:53,200
and if you heard knapp say that let me

658
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:55,120
know where it is

659
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:00,470
yeah we still don't know what he was

660
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:02,240
told the long was told something you

661
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,919
know when he was in the early days he

662
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:05,440
was meeting with these intel folks and

663
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:07,279
they said something to him that caused

664
00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:08,720
him to lose street you know he wasn't

665
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:10,640
able to sleep for three days

666
00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:12,320
um

667
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:15,919
i don't know if you saw my twitter today

668
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:18,320
ted rowe who works with narcap he was

669
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:19,840
one of the original members founding

670
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:21,840
members he had a really

671
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:23,679
i have to get him on on here because he

672
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:25,360
had an amazing sighting the guy is

673
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:28,559
really credible up close tic tac like

674
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:31,360
object which was you could see into it

675
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:32,960
two other witnesses in the car during

676
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:35,039
the day i think it was on a highway and

677
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:36,480
then he told

678
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:38,720
richard haynes who was a guy who spent

679
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,279
his life trying to

680
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:43,279
educate people about ufos and flight

681
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:44,880
safety with uh especially with

682
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:47,679
commercial airliners um

683
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:49,039
and haynes really didn't want anything

684
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,720
to do with it that's a story that really

685
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,559
has not been told enough he was on erica

686
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:54,480
luke's show talking about that i need to

687
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:55,760
listen to the rest of his interview

688
00:26:06,470 --> 00:25:59,840
which is which i linked to today

689
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,149
but of course i can't remember which one

690
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:10,960
i'll ask him i haven't heard that but i

691
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:15,590
i'm trying to

692
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:21,830
dodie um no i don't get asked about

693
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:23,760
dodie a lot but if i post something on

694
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:26,559
dodie i get a lot of flack um i met him

695
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:27,679
at the

696
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,559
mega conference in laughlin in june

697
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:32,400
nice guy everybody who meets him likes

698
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:34,000
him very likable

699
00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:36,000
um he says he was just following orders

700
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,520
with

701
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:39,360
um

702
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:40,720
of course i'm gonna i'm gonna oh

703
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:42,720
bennowitz paul benowitz where

704
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,320
for people who don't know the story paul

705
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,480
benowitz supposedly saw something

706
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:48,480
from his apartment using his binoculars

707
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:50,880
i think at kirkland air force base and

708
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,480
then i guess the story that dodi says is

709
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,159
he you know

710
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:57,600
bennett saw something that the

711
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:58,960
government was a government secret

712
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,880
program he had stumbled upon so they had

713
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,240
to

714
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:04,320
confuse him by telling him no that's ufo

715
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:07,760
stuff paul anyway the end stories

716
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,039
kind of lost his mind a little bit and

717
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:11,039
then he died he did not commit suicide i

718
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:12,960
know christopher mellon has talked about

719
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:15,360
it twice and mentioned how

720
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:17,120
benoit's committed suicide but he did

721
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:18,840
not

722
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,080
um also richard dougherty fed

723
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:24,240
he openly said he fed linda molten house

724
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,570
on bs um

725
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,760
[Music]

726
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,360
he gave her i'm not sure if he ever said

727
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:30,960
the document he gave her was bs the

728
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,360
document that rich that linda how is

729
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,440
spoken about forever where it says the

730
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:37,679
the question about you know

731
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:38,640
he says

732
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:41,200
it said that

733
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:43,840
the intelligence came here and they were

734
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:46,399
they messed they they basically upgraded

735
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:48,399
already evolving primates on this planet

736
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,159
in other words genetically engineered us

737
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:52,000
that was the big takeaway from her what

738
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:54,000
she was able to read not take any notes

739
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:55,600
no pictures

740
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,480
um

741
00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:58,159
dodie has some interesting information

742
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,799
it's really hard for me to tell

743
00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:02,320
if some of the information is not true

744
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,919
because some of it is really far out

745
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,279
there talking about

746
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:06,880
guys going you know military guys going

747
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,440
to this mountain in nevada and then

748
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:12,000
underground and seeing uh aliens and

749
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:14,080
aliens in this base and

750
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:15,440
another one where these people were

751
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:16,640
killed by

752
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:19,279
uh tall whites or or nordics they

753
00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:21,200
basically ripped this one guy apart i

754
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:22,399
mean

755
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,320
you know it's like

756
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,559
i'm open-minded but it's just a story

757
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,480
like most of ufology it's a story and

758
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:30,480
i've only heard it from him so it's hard

759
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:31,600
to judge

760
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:33,279
um

761
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:34,720
so i don't know i know hal put off

762
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,600
worked with him for a while at

763
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:39,200
earth tech and

764
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,880
put up had good things to say about him

765
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,960
and he said that some of the stuff dodie

766
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:44,640
gave them checked out some of it didn't

767
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:53,269
undecided nice guy though

768
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,710
i'm trying to

769
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,480
there we go i just recently watched an

770
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,760
interview where he talked about being

771
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:05,440
present at an abduction and it's pretty

772
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:12,149
peter thank you very much um

773
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:14,320
i will get to in a second um an

774
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,480
abduction and a military abduction a my

775
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:18,240
lab which he's spoken about i don't know

776
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,080
if he said my lot but he said

777
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:22,799
military was faking some abductions and

778
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,840
i wrote to him and he's like i didn't

779
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:25,520
say they faked all it was a very small

780
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:28,080
part of what is going on he thinks real

781
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:29,840
abductions are going on

782
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,870
i think in his interview with stephen

783
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,399
grier's where he mentioned that and then

784
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,240
grier said oh look he said it's all

785
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:40,559
military and and dodi's like nope i

786
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:42,640
didn't say that i was taken and i went

787
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,520
back and watched it um

788
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:48,000
grier has his theories so

789
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:49,360
he used that for one of his

790
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:51,039
documentaries

791
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:52,640
i'm not so quick to judge anyone in the

792
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,240
field especially being on the impression

793
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,919
any one person does not have the full

794
00:29:59,010 --> 00:29:57,440
picture

795
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:59,020
yeah i'm the same way um

796
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:00,240
[Music]

797
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:02,559
i definitely do not have i have opinions

798
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:04,480
and speculation everything else you know

799
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,240
the most i'll say is i believe something

800
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:08,240
and i say this all the time something is

801
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:09,919
interacting with human beings and has

802
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:12,000
been for a very long time

803
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,960
um

804
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:14,720
that's my belief everything else is

805
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:16,240
speculation

806
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,760
and that's peter peter thank you very

807
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:19,279
much

808
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:22,559
and i can't read uh

809
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:25,600
i don't have a translator on here

810
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,880
so i don't know what you said

811
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,559
but thank you

812
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:32,640
i'll have to look it up later when i

813
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:34,320
could pull that and um put it into a

814
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,000
translator

815
00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:37,919
i was on a new ufo's brother episode i

816
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:39,520
watched he talked to them about a story

817
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:41,440
he said he hadn't told anyone before so

818
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:43,440
i'm 50 50. yeah

819
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:45,200
it's really hard because

820
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,799
you listen to him and you sit down you

821
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:48,240
talk and you know it was after the

822
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:49,760
conference we're all

823
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:51,120
most of his stories were during the

824
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:52,640
conference afterwards you know we talked

825
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,240
about all different things and ufology

826
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:57,360
it was great um

827
00:31:02,389 --> 00:30:59,679
that was a group it was richard dolan me

828
00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,399
jimmy church before he blocked me again

829
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,559
um dodie and

830
00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:06,240
jordan maxwell was there jordan

831
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:08,480
maxwell's been around forever

832
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:10,399
um

833
00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:12,000
so back to what i was talking about the

834
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:13,070
collins elite um

835
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:14,240
[Music]

836
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:16,559
so redfern said redfern said when they

837
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:17,840
first got together they were pretty

838
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:20,159
open-minded about various theories you

839
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,880
know

840
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,799
even if ufos were something negative

841
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,799
they didn't just jump to the demons and

842
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,640
angels you know

843
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,159
the bad ones are demons the good ones

844
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,320
are angels they did supposedly they do

845
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:32,640
have that belief but early on they were

846
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:35,679
more open like if you look at paul eno

847
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,440
and he talks about exorcisms he doesn't

848
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:39,279
think that they're demons who are

849
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:40,640
possessing these people he thinks

850
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:42,000
they're they're just parasites i think

851
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,600
he says there's

852
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:45,120
i don't know if it's seven eight or nine

853
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,559
different types

854
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,480
and i'm open to that you know it's like

855
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,240
i don't think that's the entire answer

856
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,559
but it could be it could be like

857
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:55,440
and he says the consulate believe that

858
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:57,679
the demons are pretending to be

859
00:32:01,590 --> 00:32:00,320
extraterrestrials trying to deceive us

860
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:01,600
and

861
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:05,440
they're not the only folks that believe

862
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,679
that i think ray boucher who is the one

863
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:09,360
who had a meeting with

864
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:12,720
two of these guys back it was 1991 i

865
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:13,840
don't know if they were collins elite

866
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:15,279
members or

867
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,559
dod i think they were dod folks but

868
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,880
boche was on a show talking and beauche

869
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,159
is one of the people i was told by one

870
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:23,840
of my sources to read person said

871
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:27,279
pasalka valet boucher and redfern was

872
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,799
the last thing and the person said yeah

873
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,559
i know the per redfern seems to put out

874
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:32,320
a book every week but he has done some

875
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,440
good work

876
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,559
um

877
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:36,320
and final events seems like a good book

878
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:37,519
i haven't i've only listened to

879
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:39,360
interviews with redfern i haven't read

880
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:41,840
the book yet

881
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,360
yeah posalka

882
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:45,360
has spoken about remember it's not

883
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:46,880
really official name they don't have the

884
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:48,880
ce on their jacket we are members of the

885
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,960
collins elite um

886
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:52,559
but those folks are there i have no

887
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:53,600
doubt

888
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:55,840
um my favorite story is joe mcmonical

889
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:58,000
though he goes um

890
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:03,350
they had to time to time from time to

891
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,480
time they had to go and show their

892
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:06,000
remote viewing skills to get more

893
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:08,080
funding each year but during one of

894
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:09,679
these meetings he met somebody and the

895
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:10,880
guy said

896
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:13,039
you're doing the work of the devil he's

897
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:15,360
like okay and then

898
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,559
a couple of minutes later he meets

899
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,000
another guy i think it was at the same

900
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,159
meeting or get together and the guy goes

901
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:21,840
you're doing the work of god so it's

902
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:27,190
it's hard to it's really hard to win

903
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:28,240
with that

904
00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:30,960
whatever whatever is going on i am of

905
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:32,960
the belief we need to study this uh

906
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:35,039
that's you know i respect

907
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:36,640
the folks if they really think it's

908
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:38,320
demonic and they want to keep us from

909
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:40,320
studying it because studying it opens

910
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:42,480
that doorway and lets them in if you

911
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:44,000
show a belief in them i think that's

912
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:44,960
what

913
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,399
redfern says you know i respect that but

914
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,640
we need i respect the passion they have

915
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,799
and they want to save the world and

916
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:54,240
but

917
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:55,679
you know i think we need to study this

918
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:57,120
and figure it out because we don't know

919
00:34:01,830 --> 00:33:59,600
what it is at least i don't as far as i

920
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,840
know i don't know anybody that does they

921
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:04,080
believe they figured it out redfern said

922
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,600
they stopped you know they they said

923
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,679
this is it this is what we believe

924
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:09,520
um so there's no change in our mind at

925
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,879
this point

926
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:12,480
gary nolan has said you know maybe it's

927
00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:14,480
the way they this intelligence is

928
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:17,119
communicating with us through technology

929
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,960
um

930
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,119
he kind of hinted at you know the beings

931
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,200
maybe just you know that's we

932
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,960
they're not really beings but that's the

933
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:26,480
way to represent themselves so we can

934
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:27,919
actually understand oh yeah here's a

935
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:29,599
being in front of me maybe they don't

936
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,839
have any form whatsoever

937
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,599
maybe it's and and

938
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:35,280
i don't know if it's you hear stories

939
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,520
about benevolent malevolent neutral

940
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,280
if it's just one intelligence it's all

941
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,200
over the place because you know you have

942
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,359
the trickster you know stuff that makes

943
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:47,200
absolutely no sense i mean you have a

944
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:49,119
story where some guy i forget what year

945
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:51,440
it was but these human looking beings

946
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:53,119
came down and gave him pancakes you know

947
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:54,800
just ridiculous stuff like that george

948
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:57,040
knapp talks about you know the unit you

949
00:35:02,310 --> 00:34:59,760
went to basin they saw dog smoking peep

950
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:02,320
smoking dog faced people in trench coats

951
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:03,680
ridiculous

952
00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:06,320
but witnesses are reporting that and

953
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:07,520
you know people like why do you even

954
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:08,800
talk about that i'm like well because

955
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:10,079
there are stories like that just like

956
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:11,040
the the

957
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:12,800
bipedal wolf in skinwalkers at the

958
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,349
three people saw it the wife the son and

959
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:21,680
then the son's kid that friend so it's

960
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,640
like

961
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:24,400
and people make fun of that bipedal wolf

962
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:26,720
story but

963
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:28,160
it's just another one another one of

964
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:29,280
those things you're like it sounds

965
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:31,119
ridiculous but you know it was reported

966
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,510
yeah

967
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:42,000
on the eric weinstein and

968
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:43,599
how put off

969
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,839
interview they talk about and the drive

970
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:48,079
did a great article

971
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:51,920
on the research that was done in the 50s

972
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:53,280
in

973
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:55,599
anti-gravity and it's funny hal put off

974
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:56,960
said yeah either they just totally

975
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:59,440
failed or they succeeded it went and it

976
00:36:02,069 --> 00:36:00,720
went black

977
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:02,079
and that's why i have a friend will

978
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:04,000
miller who says he believes we have

979
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,599
cracked gravity and we have a craft i

980
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:08,160
can go anyplace anytime in the universe

981
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:09,280
so

982
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:11,119
you know you hear that and then other

983
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,720
people other people are like that's

984
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:14,640
ridiculous we have not cracked gravity

985
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,880
we've not made any progress eric davis

986
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,640
talks about the crash retrieval program

987
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:20,240
they have not made any progress of

988
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:21,520
course it's possible there's another

989
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:22,560
program

990
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:26,000
that made progress i don't know i mean

991
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,359
and

992
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,280
it's really hard because will is not

993
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:31,359
just some he's just not some guy will

994
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:32,640
miller who's

995
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:34,400
who folks who don't know who he is he's

996
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:36,240
in my mega blog he's somebody that

997
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,280
leslie kane called a true insider and he

998
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:41,280
briefed people in the pentagon on what

999
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,320
he knew

1000
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:44,240
he briefed admiral wilson he briefed the

1001
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,000
next uh director of the dia um

1002
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:50,160
patrick hughes

1003
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:51,839
so yeah um

1004
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:00,150
michael vi who i have had on uh

1005
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:03,200
he believes we've cracked gravity

1006
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:06,000
so you know it's a passionate subject

1007
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:09,680
that people react to either way

1008
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:10,960
have you been following what's been

1009
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:12,800
going on with i don't know about the

1010
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:16,000
blind frog ranch um

1011
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,240
i know it's close yeah i know brandon

1012
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:20,320
fugel said it was not very far away the

1013
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:21,520
other day

1014
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:23,280
i need to look up i need to look it up

1015
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:29,510
underground findings and similar to

1016
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,760
skinwalker and there's other places like

1017
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:33,680
sedona and

1018
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:36,160
yakima washington which were mentioned

1019
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,200
in hunt for the skinwalker um don't say

1020
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:41,200
new mexico but not the extreme stories

1021
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:43,119
you hear about dulce i think dulce is

1022
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:45,040
where um

1023
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,800
the guy who was supposedly had got into

1024
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:48,720
a fire fight with aliens what was his

1025
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:51,760
name um

1026
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,079
i forget his name

1027
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,640
schneider phil schneider and then but

1028
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,960
the stories about dolce are similar to

1029
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:00,320
skinwalkers so it seems like there are

1030
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:03,599
certain places where that happens

1031
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:05,280
i don't know if there's a portal i don't

1032
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,280
know um also there's a native american

1033
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,880
connection

1034
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:10,640
very close to native american sites if

1035
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:14,480
not on native american grand ground

1036
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:17,119
i need i would like to interview ray

1037
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:19,440
i tried last year he was a little out of

1038
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:21,440
it um under the weather so i need to try

1039
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:22,960
again

1040
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:25,680
he he's the one that brought up

1041
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,920
another theory about

1042
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:29,520
whatever is going

1043
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,359
and it goes along with the collins elite

1044
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:33,760
folks believe he said whatever is around

1045
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,119
the um

1046
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:37,440
nuclear weapons and shutting them off

1047
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,520
and turning them on wants us to believe

1048
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,680
that they're extraterrestrial this is a

1049
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:43,200
theory i don't know if he believes this

1050
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:46,640
but no way to deceive us so

1051
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,800
deception so we're looking over into the

1052
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:50,400
sky where the extraterrestrials

1053
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:52,880
meanwhile something on this planet

1054
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,839
so it you know keep us one step behind

1055
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:57,359
what it actually is

1056
00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:00,320
that's the theory

1057
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:02,000
the bizarre nature of those stories fits

1058
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:03,520
with the psychological consciousness

1059
00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:04,800
connection

1060
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,359
slide nine yeah i mean

1061
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,599
maybe if they're able to manipulate our

1062
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:11,599
perceptions you know you know i would

1063
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:14,000
say it's not really a bipedal wolf it's

1064
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:15,839
just something they projected into their

1065
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:17,920
consciousness but

1066
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:20,079
this the tree out back as an example the

1067
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:22,079
tree out back of that where that with a

1068
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:24,480
lit with i think it was the wife of

1069
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:26,960
axelrod in skinwalkers at the pentagon

1070
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:29,200
and you know they went out the next day

1071
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:30,880
or later that day because it happened i

1072
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:32,240
think it happened during the day they

1073
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,079
found scratch marks into the tree so

1074
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:36,720
it's physical

1075
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:38,720
but as gary nolan has spoken about

1076
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:40,400
jacques valet

1077
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,880
john keel and maybe an intelligence that

1078
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,960
has technology so advanced that it can

1079
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:46,800
actually instead of

1080
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:48,800
cgi where it's not physical and i it

1081
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:50,960
actually can become physical so i don't

1082
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:54,079
know total speculation um i want to tell

1083
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,040
the story before i forget

1084
00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:59,359
of how i got into this so just hold off

1085
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:01,599
questions for now

1086
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:02,800
so i was

1087
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:05,200
how i got into this when i was younger i

1088
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:06,720
was

1089
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:09,359
seven years old my sister she doesn't

1090
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:10,800
remember this she took me to see a

1091
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,599
document a docudrama

1092
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:16,000
about bigfoot in the theater

1093
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:17,440
and i remember the opening feature was

1094
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,119
at ufo documentary which i don't know

1095
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:21,760
which one it was

1096
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,440
but i remember being fascinated and

1097
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:25,520
scared because the docudrama was shot

1098
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:28,000
like a movie um half documentary half

1099
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:29,599
scripted

1100
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:30,960
so that was my first i think

1101
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:33,920
introduction to something paranormal or

1102
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:35,200
supernatural

1103
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:36,000
or

1104
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:40,079
what i would have called it as a kid and

1105
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,359
then

1106
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:43,440
along the way i would watch in search of

1107
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:45,280
which was leonard nimoy and i loved it

1108
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:46,880
you know that famous

1109
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:49,440
patterson gimlin film with the bigfoot

1110
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:52,319
creature walking and turning around

1111
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:55,920
loved that film um and then 77 is when i

1112
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,960
saw

1113
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:58,640
close encounters of the third kind in

1114
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:00,160
the theater

1115
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,880
but i was not into ufos though i liked

1116
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,880
the movie um

1117
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,880
and i didn't really at the time maybe i

1118
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,720
had encyclopedias i could have looked up

1119
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,560
the subject but i didn't i didn't know

1120
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:12,160
there was any i didn't know there was

1121
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,240
books on it you know i'm

1122
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,800
12 years old um i have a great picture

1123
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,880
of me playing drums with you with a

1124
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:20,960
close encounters t-shirt on which i

1125
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:23,200
can't find um

1126
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,560
had the big mothership on the front

1127
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:28,480
but i didn't have really you know a

1128
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:31,520
really strong interest in anything

1129
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:34,720
paranormal until

1130
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,520
i'm trying to think

1131
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,359
i did have

1132
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:41,040
this was like eighth or ninth grade i

1133
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:42,800
had a dream where my

1134
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,839
the girl had a huge crush on she

1135
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,760
in my dream her mother died and she was

1136
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:49,920
at the hospital and and i i saw her at

1137
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:52,240
the hospital and i asked my mom

1138
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:54,240
in the dream hey her mom just died can

1139
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,680
she come stay with us it was kind of

1140
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:57,280
like a selfish way i'm like oh i get to

1141
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,800
hang out with her now her mother died

1142
00:42:02,309 --> 00:42:00,480
and now she needs somewhere to stay she

1143
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:02,319
could come stay with us so this is my

1144
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,680
dream

1145
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,760
in 9th or 10th grade and then the next

1146
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:07,680
day i go into school i didn't know her

1147
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:10,079
mom was sick anyway her mom died i

1148
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:12,880
dreamt her mom died the next day i go in

1149
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,440
she tells us her mom died or two days

1150
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,440
later um

1151
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,000
so that was that's like a premonition

1152
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:22,560
dream or you know

1153
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:23,760
i'm trying to think of the word of what

1154
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:25,040
it is but i didn't really think of

1155
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:26,800
anything at the time i didn't connect to

1156
00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,160
something paranormal i probably thought

1157
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,560
it was just you know no big deal

1158
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,240
it's funny a couple of years ago i

1159
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:34,560
reached out to her so that was like

1160
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:37,200
i'd say 1980 81

1161
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:38,960
so like 35 years later i don't know how

1162
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:41,200
many nine to two thousand

1163
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:42,960
almost 40 years later i reached out to

1164
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:44,560
her on facebook found her told her the

1165
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:46,400
story and i'm like did i remember these

1166
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,640
details right your mom had cancer right

1167
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:50,319
you told us after i asked you if your

1168
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:53,200
mom i told her the whole thing and

1169
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,960
we got to talk on the phone and then it

1170
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,720
turns out that her son

1171
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:58,560
lived in vegas and worked at the with

1172
00:43:01,670 --> 00:43:00,079
the vegas golden knights hockey team

1173
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:01,680
which i was working i got to meet him

1174
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,800
that night

1175
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:05,200
really weird um

1176
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:07,440
had that experience and then

1177
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,230
86 or so 87

1178
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,200
might have been 82 or 83 my and i was

1179
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:18,880
probably like 18 years old my cousin

1180
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:20,960
told me about astral projection make a

1181
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,440
long story short i went to the bookstore

1182
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:25,680
got a book read it tried it nothing

1183
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:26,720
happened

1184
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:27,110
um

1185
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,400
[Music]

1186
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,200
make a long story short 96 i met my

1187
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:33,440
first wife and she mentioned her how her

1188
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:36,480
aunt had this being show up and

1189
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:38,000
when she was falling asleep in a chair

1190
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:39,119
and i'm like what did the being look

1191
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,480
like she's like on the cover of that

1192
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,720
book you know that that book about

1193
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,319
abductions that's what it looked like

1194
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:46,240
i'm like what book she's like i think

1195
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,720
it's called communion um so i looked i

1196
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:50,160
bought the book

1197
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,550
got too scared because i didn't realize

1198
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,400
it was a scary book about abductions and

1199
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,319
i was like i was freaked out this was

1200
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,960
96. stopped reading it

1201
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,960
put it down

1202
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:04,240
i'm like i'm not going to read this i

1203
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:05,920
don't want to read this i woke up that

1204
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:07,599
night or the next night on the couch i

1205
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,599
was sleeping on the couch

1206
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:11,440
and i couldn't move so i was frozen i'm

1207
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,359
like oh my god i'm about to get abducted

1208
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:17,680
the aliens are coming

1209
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:19,520
so i couldn't move but i struggled out

1210
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:21,359
of it and then i'm like you know what

1211
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,720
the next day i'm like i'm gonna finish

1212
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,160
reading that book and then i read it i'm

1213
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,160
like oh this is really great this is

1214
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,079
about metaphysical subjects i had never

1215
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:30,160
heard about and that sent me down the

1216
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:31,680
metaphysical rabbit hole i read

1217
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:33,359
channeled books i read so many different

1218
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:35,680
books on ufos i thought disclosure was

1219
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,640
coming in 2000 i believed everything i

1220
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:40,960
read i had no discernment so that's how

1221
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:43,200
i got into this um

1222
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:44,800
and then i started my own newsletter

1223
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:46,960
around

1224
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:50,160
i'm trying to think it was 97 98 open

1225
00:44:54,340 --> 00:44:52,640
mind news was my newsletter

1226
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:54,350
that didn't work out and then

1227
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,760
[Music]

1228
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,440
got back into television i actually quit

1229
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,520
my job i was working a job at the city

1230
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,440
of tampa television to work on the

1231
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:03,359
newsletter full time

1232
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:05,359
didn't focus enough didn't pursue it

1233
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:06,480
enough so i had to get back into

1234
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:08,800
television and then

1235
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,160
you know i stayed in

1236
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:12,480
ufo updates that uh list was great back

1237
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:14,560
then books and then nothing until really

1238
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,599
nothing strong until 2017 and the long

1239
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:19,440
and dalon is a big reason why that

1240
00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:23,200
happened so that's how i got into this

1241
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:28,230
i don't know

1242
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,760
i know kit green has mentioned holograms

1243
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:39,440
but i think he was thinking more along

1244
00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:43,359
the lines of black technology um

1245
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:44,720
but

1246
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,440
at least one intelligence here can

1247
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:52,960
obviously i can't explain the science

1248
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:54,160
but

1249
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:55,440
basically you can create whatever it

1250
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:56,880
wants it's kind of like the holodeck

1251
00:46:04,870 --> 00:45:59,680
except it's it can become physical

1252
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,910
you know

1253
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:06,720
that

1254
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:11,119
population like i said et's one thing

1255
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:13,119
you know they're here to

1256
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,640
collect

1257
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:16,079
resources and

1258
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:17,760
maybe humans are one of the resources

1259
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,480
that would go over well but then you say

1260
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,480
no they're not et they're just um

1261
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,079
they're kind of like non-physical

1262
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:25,839
they're on this planet you really can't

1263
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,200
see them but they also can create

1264
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,760
whatever they want so ufos you know the

1265
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:31,440
craft they create that

1266
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:33,200
they have really super duper advanced

1267
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:35,839
tech it looks like magic as artesy clark

1268
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,950
any advanced technology i forget the

1269
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:42,880
quote will look like magic

1270
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:49,030
i don't know about gallium and bread and

1271
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,870
calling wasn't smelled and it's

1272
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:56,960
yeah i don't know about that um i will

1273
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,480
try to remember to google it

1274
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,520
um

1275
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:03,280
i think as time goes on there's going to

1276
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:05,440
be so many discoveries like this doesn't

1277
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:06,960
make any sense

1278
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,680
just like michael cremo

1279
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,440
you know some of the some of the the

1280
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:13,760
archaeological finds that people have

1281
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,760
you know they date them to like 20 000

1282
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:16,800
whatever they date them to some

1283
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:19,040
ridiculous date and then mainstream

1284
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:20,800
archaeologists come in and say no that's

1285
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:23,520
impossible so

1286
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:25,359
sorry but i think

1287
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,520
it takes a long time i think

1288
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:28,880
the quote i don't know who said it

1289
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,119
science changes one funeral at a time so

1290
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:33,040
it's the younger people that are coming

1291
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:33,839
in

1292
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:40,079
bogey creek is the movie

1293
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:41,599
i think there was another one too you

1294
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:44,400
can watch it on youtube

1295
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:47,200
and i loved that movie

1296
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:49,280
even though it scared me

1297
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:50,880
yeah precognitive dream that's what i

1298
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,240
had and i had another dream like that

1299
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:54,319
when i was i was working in a hospital

1300
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:56,559
with dying veterans who were in

1301
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:58,160
palliative care which means they're

1302
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:59,520
dying they know they're dying they have

1303
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:01,359
limited time so i would just spend time

1304
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:02,880
with these guys

1305
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:06,079
um and one of the guys he had emphysema

1306
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:08,160
and um some days good some days bad he

1307
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,440
couldn't breathe he would just wave me

1308
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:11,520
off he didn't want to talk um

1309
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:13,280
one day i go in

1310
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:14,960
that night before i had a dream that he

1311
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:16,160
died

1312
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:18,800
um and i go in and he was not there was

1313
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,559
no like warning that he was about

1314
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,480
usually you have some sort of warning

1315
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:24,400
not always but

1316
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:26,000
so i had no warning whatsoever that he

1317
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:27,599
was taking any downturn or anything like

1318
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,760
that i'd been there two days before so i

1319
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,839
have the dream he dies i go in nurse

1320
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,440
stops me before i go in she's like i

1321
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,760
need to talk to you i'm like

1322
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:37,680
frank died right she's like how did you

1323
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,720
know i'm like

1324
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:41,359
i had a dream about it last night um

1325
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,559
so

1326
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:44,160
yeah and i go into the room i go can i

1327
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:45,520
go into his room she's like yeah go

1328
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:46,720
ahead and um

1329
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:49,040
i go into the room and his bed was empty

1330
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,400
but the bed next to him there was always

1331
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:52,160
two beds

1332
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:53,920
had like a form in it i'm like what the

1333
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:56,079
hell they didn't take his body out

1334
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:58,240
and then the sheets are covered up the

1335
00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:59,920
form is covered and all sudden the

1336
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:02,640
sheets come off and it's a new person

1337
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,400
who had just been checked into that room

1338
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,079
and scared the hell out of me they're

1339
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,720
like hello i'm like oh hi

1340
00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:10,720
okay so yeah that was another

1341
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,680
precognitive dream

1342
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:15,280
and i've had other ones like that not

1343
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,599
about death those two death ones stood

1344
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:19,119
out

1345
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,559
but and there are some people that think

1346
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,319
well that's the phenomenon feeding you

1347
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,720
those dreams there's a connection maybe

1348
00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:26,240
i don't know you know maybe it's all

1349
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,720
connected

1350
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:30,880
peter says i did not think about ufos

1351
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,920
before 2014 man so that's recent my dad

1352
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:35,680
passed and in no time my wife saw a

1353
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:38,319
classic ufo i say a big orb in the house

1354
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:40,400
i saw a big orb in the house and other

1355
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,480
stuff

1356
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:44,400
the only orb i've seen was outback about

1357
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:47,440
15 feet away from this door during dusk

1358
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:48,319
um

1359
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:50,319
i think kenneth arnold had orbs in his

1360
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,559
house his his daughter or his sister i

1361
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:54,079
think spoke about that they spoke they

1362
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:55,599
write about that and hunt in uh

1363
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:01,190
there are people that have gotten into

1364
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:03,040
this even in the last couple of years

1365
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,960
it's definitely it's definitely growing

1366
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:07,200
with interest it's not something you go

1367
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:08,400
on the street and you're going to find

1368
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,280
you know

1369
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,119
throw it throw a rock and like oh that

1370
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:13,200
person's now into ufos i don't think

1371
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:14,960
it's that

1372
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:16,480
you know that widespread but it's

1373
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:18,400
definitely increasing

1374
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:20,079
my my twitter following is increasing

1375
00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:21,440
but i don't know if it's because of that

1376
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:23,119
or just because normally if you get a

1377
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:25,359
lot of followers people see it's like

1378
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:26,960
exponential growth people see that you

1379
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:28,240
have

1380
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:29,839
10 000 followers they're like oh that

1381
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,040
person must know what they're talking

1382
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:32,960
about so they follow you and it just it

1383
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,190
or we live in a crappy simulation with

1384
00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,200
bugs

1385
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,680
can't rule it out um

1386
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,359
tom

1387
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,520
my big toe my big theory

1388
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:49,040
yeah my big theory of everything tom

1389
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:51,680
campbell uh physicist talks about how

1390
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,880
this is all

1391
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:54,480
a simulation

1392
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:55,680
basically

1393
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,960
uh

1394
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:58,720
world of warcraft that's where we're

1395
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:01,440
living in something like that um

1396
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:04,079
could be you know

1397
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:05,680
the pro the question i have if that's

1398
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,680
the case it's useless to us unless we

1399
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:09,440
could somehow change the program

1400
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,549
loved in search of two leonard nimboy's

1401
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,800
voice that in twilight zone i wasn't a

1402
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:19,200
huge twilight zone fan i did watch it

1403
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:28,630
the over was the size of a tennis um

1404
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:30,000
i guess you thought about the orb the

1405
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,240
orb was the size of a tennis

1406
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:34,800
ball gray and strings inside that's

1407
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:37,200
interesting what i saw was just

1408
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:40,079
dull white it was dull white

1409
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,359
i'd say about

1410
00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:44,160
that big and it went so fast it was not

1411
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:47,119
an animal i don't know what it was

1412
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:50,559
let's see um

1413
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:52,079
back to the collins elite i'm trying to

1414
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:54,000
think what else

1415
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:56,480
they said oh basically they've they

1416
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,400
he you know the collins lead according

1417
00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:00,319
to redfern they believe that they they

1418
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:02,480
feed that these beings these demons are

1419
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:04,240
feeding off of our negative emotions and

1420
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:06,720
they're harvesting our souls

1421
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:11,670
paul aina who you know who works with

1422
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,599
people who have

1423
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:15,359
negative attachments i guess you would

1424
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:16,839
call it he teaches

1425
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:19,359
them gotta don't be fearful don't be

1426
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,520
angry put out a positive emotion when

1427
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:23,280
you encounter them and he says it works

1428
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,240
it's he says it he says the possession

1429
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:28,720
the exorcisms did not work it's almost

1430
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:30,880
like they just would feed off of that it

1431
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:33,599
didn't work with those folks but he says

1432
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,599
the the methods he uses nowadays where

1433
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,520
he doesn't think they're demons

1434
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,359
um he thinks positive thoughts and

1435
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:41,280
delong has said that

1436
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:43,200
love is like a nuclear missile to the

1437
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:45,599
heart of the ufo um

1438
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,200
i wish people would ask some of the

1439
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,359
follow-ups because when delong is on the

1440
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:51,440
people who interview him have no idea of

1441
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,549
and

1442
00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:59,119
the collins elite think earth is a farms

1443
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:01,599
um the first person i think who ever

1444
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:09,030
fort charles fort

1445
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:10,800
and i pulled up a quote from his book

1446
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,359
which is on my twitter and

1447
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:15,040
i need to go through my twitter more

1448
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:16,720
more often on here because right now

1449
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:18,400
it's it would take me

1450
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:20,079
probably all day to go

1451
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:22,079
back to when i was on last compare and

1452
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,359
just go through all my tweaks there's

1453
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,440
some really good stuff on there a lot of

1454
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,359
audio i try to do a lot of audio too

1455
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:29,040
i'll try to pull quotes from books that

1456
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:31,680
i i think jump out as interesting

1457
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:36,950
and

1458
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:39,200
you'll you've seen if you've been on ufo

1459
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,160
twitter the last couple weeks there

1460
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:42,240
people have lost patience they're even

1461
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:43,920
they're starting to say this is a psyop

1462
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:45,280
and they're questioning lou there was a

1463
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,280
documentary which i did not spend any

1464
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:49,680
time with that is now not available on

1465
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:51,280
youtube which

1466
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:53,599
because the person took shows pieces

1467
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:55,119
from shows without asking so there's a

1468
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:56,800
copyright strike against them they'll

1469
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:58,800
probably be put up but

1470
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,319
it's just like if you think lou is part

1471
00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:02,400
of a psyop and some evil guy at this

1472
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,400
point i think you're just lost there are

1473
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:06,480
people that think that they think lou

1474
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:08,480
hal put off eric davis

1475
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,839
bigelow they're all part of the problem

1476
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:13,599
it's just to me it's just horrible

1477
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:16,319
analysis just like people who look at

1478
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:19,920
the west coast events with the um

1479
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,800
the drones um i'm gonna collect

1480
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,400
everything that jeremy corbell has said

1481
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,160
and knapp has said about that because he

1482
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,480
said a lot that may clear up some things

1483
00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:30,160
it's not germany that court called those

1484
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:32,400
pyramid objects on the west coast

1485
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,040
i know a lot of people think it was boca

1486
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,960
out of focus but you know that made it

1487
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:39,359
into the uap task force

1488
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:41,119
um and there

1489
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:42,799
i would love to know

1490
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:45,359
more about 2019 and i think we will find

1491
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:46,319
out more

1492
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:48,079
through jeremy and he's spoken about

1493
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:52,710
uh there are people let me just go

1494
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:57,829
comments

1495
00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:59,680
logan good to see you i know you've been

1496
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,359
with me on twitter for a while i'm doing

1497
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:03,359
good i'm doing well

1498
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:06,240
my current efforts are looking for a job

1499
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:12,470
pat price told engle swan the us

1500
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:16,160
government works with ets ingle told him

1501
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,559
not to talk about it i mean i know pat

1502
00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:20,400
price was amazing pat price was

1503
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:21,680
incredible

1504
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,680
it was better than ingo swan there was a

1505
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:25,760
rivalry i think it was a rivalry between

1506
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:28,160
a lot of those guys

1507
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:31,359
i know pat price remote viewed um

1508
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:35,119
et bases but without getting feedback to

1509
00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,280
confirm that there are et's in the base

1510
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:39,839
i mean it's interesting and i've heard

1511
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:41,599
that they were urged the government was

1512
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:43,680
urged by somebody who was involved say

1513
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:46,799
go look confirm or deny go look and they

1514
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,510
joe have you read any of dean raiden's

1515
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,079
work yeah his first book the conscious

1516
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:58,319
universe

1517
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:00,160
and

1518
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:04,720
with one of my favorite researchers

1519
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:07,200
william bankston who does the

1520
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:11,200
healing method on mice with cancer

1521
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:13,920
and they're trying to record

1522
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:15,359
in the room when they're doing these

1523
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:16,559
healing sessions they're trying to

1524
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,480
record everything they can i don't know

1525
00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:20,240
what instruments they're using

1526
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,119
but they're having some success

1527
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,760
so they can play the recording

1528
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:27,839
and instead of having the healers they

1529
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:29,359
can just play the recording and which

1530
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:31,440
obviously if that if they can scale it

1531
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:33,280
up and it works you can just he wants to

1532
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:34,960
give it away for free

1533
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:37,520
um i have no doubt that humans and his

1534
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:39,680
experiments are healing mice of cancer

1535
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,400
mammary cancer the the mice lived to 27

1536
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,880
days maximum in his experiments they're

1537
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:46,559
living 80 of the mice are living their

1538
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:50,240
full lifespan of two years so

1539
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:52,880
done in university labs

1540
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:55,440
peer-reviewed reports it's real basic um

1541
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:56,640
and he's like if you have a problem with

1542
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:58,319
any of my studies and you think there's

1543
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,680
a problem and

1544
00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:01,040
something's wrong and the data is

1545
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,960
inaccurate tell me about it i mean i

1546
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:04,559
want to interview him too his books are

1547
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:05,920
great

1548
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:07,839
especially the one he reads i forget

1549
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:20,870
people need to be open-minded about

1550
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,270
yeah i mean one thing that

1551
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:29,280
does bother me today there was somebody

1552
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:33,349
they know that this is going to happen

1553
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:35,440
by 2025 and this is going to happen by

1554
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:38,000
2028 in the galactic federation which is

1555
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:39,520
made up of eight

1556
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,400
different species it's like

1557
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:44,720
it's so it's such a bad thing

1558
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,319
especially new people i mean i don't

1559
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:48,799
want to stop people from saying that but

1560
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:50,559
they put it on on one of my tweets i'm

1561
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:51,599
like

1562
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:53,200
i have to respond to that because there

1563
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,319
are people like really that's

1564
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,480
interesting you think that what about

1565
00:58:01,589 --> 00:57:58,799
the reptilians and i'm like

1566
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,599
anytime anybody's so sure of themselves

1567
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,839
just run away

1568
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:05,520
it's just and i know that they believe

1569
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:07,599
the information they're getting

1570
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:09,200
is accurate but

1571
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,200
as we know channeling is so

1572
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:12,960
contradictory and

1573
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:15,440
predictions come and go and

1574
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,960
if there really are beings feeding them

1575
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:18,400
information they're feeding me either

1576
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:19,920
either they're lying to them feeding

1577
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:21,119
them bad information or the

1578
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:22,640
interpretation is off one or the other

1579
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,079
so you just cannot rely on channeled

1580
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,400
information it's interesting

1581
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:28,480
um i love the raw material interesting

1582
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:30,880
to read i don't know if any of it's true

1583
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:32,400
i think courtney brown said he thinks

1584
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:34,000
it's just a whole bunch of gobbly book

1585
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:35,040
meant to just

1586
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,720
distract us because if you read some of

1587
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:38,400
the raw material it's like

1588
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:40,000
what the hell are they saying it's like

1589
00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:48,150
ssp stories

1590
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:49,599
yeah i mean

1591
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:51,760
you have this

1592
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:53,839
secret space program as a basic story

1593
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:56,400
but then you have people who claim i

1594
00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:58,400
don't really if you really combine the

1595
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:59,839
two then you have the

1596
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:01,599
super soldiers and the ones who say they

1597
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:04,000
went to mars secret space program is one

1598
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:07,119
thing if we have some technology and

1599
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:09,440
you know i know dolan has spoken about

1600
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:11,440
that and he believes that

1601
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:13,440
i don't know but the other stuff for the

1602
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:15,359
guys who have gone to mars i mean i i

1603
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:16,640
would love for it to be true if we have

1604
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,640
a some sort of portal you could jump in

1605
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:20,240
and be on mars but i don't think that's

1606
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:22,720
the case you have randy kramer you have

1607
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:25,040
bastiago you have other folks there's

1608
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:26,880
like a long list corey good i think

1609
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:27,680
right

1610
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:29,520
i never paid attention to corey good

1611
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,880
from the d from day one i just thought

1612
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:32,640
he was bogus

1613
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,069
let's see

1614
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:45,750
best remote viewing books

1615
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:48,150
first remote viewing book i read was jim

1616
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:49,599
schnabel

1617
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:53,119
called remote viewers it's a paperback

1618
00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:56,079
such a great read entertaining

1619
01:00:02,309 --> 00:59:57,680
um

1620
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,319
i also read

1621
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:04,000
but he also made a documentary called

1622
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:07,359
the real x-files which is on youtube

1623
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:09,760
um good documentary

1624
01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:11,680
he actually closes it with he does a

1625
01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:13,680
remote viewing session with ingo swan as

1626
01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:16,160
his monitor uh and he has a great

1627
01:00:22,470 --> 01:00:21,349
so that book is a good one then i i

1628
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:22,480
think the first one i ever read was

1629
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:24,000
courtney brown

1630
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:27,280
cosmic voyage which i do not recommend

1631
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:29,760
i read david morehouse psychic warrior

1632
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:31,359
don't recommend just because the guys in

1633
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:32,799
the program are like

1634
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:34,480
yeah morehouse took a lot of our stories

1635
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:36,559
and embellished and put them in his book

1636
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:38,319
um doesn't mean he can't teach remote

1637
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:39,359
viewing doesn't mean he doesn't have

1638
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:42,319
abilities but that book no um joe

1639
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:44,640
mcmonicle anything by joe mcmonicle

1640
01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:45,839
except

1641
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:47,839
the time machine he wrote a book called

1642
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:49,040
the time machine where he made all these

1643
01:00:52,870 --> 01:00:50,559
future predictions and he's like yeah it

1644
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:52,880
didn't work out i tried predictions for

1645
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:55,440
the most part not accurate but any of

1646
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:57,119
his other books mindtrack was one of the

1647
01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:58,559
first i think the first book i read from

1648
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,160
him i did not i have not read all of his

1649
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:02,079
books mindtrack which you can find

1650
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:05,119
online as a pdf for free um i pulled a

1651
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:06,400
quote from that the other day when he

1652
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:07,839
was talking about how

1653
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:09,280
in his 10th year of remote viewing he

1654
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:11,359
started seeing things out of his corner

1655
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,799
of his eyes

1656
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:14,400
and then after a while he was actually

1657
01:01:18,309 --> 01:01:15,920
able to look up at them almost like

1658
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:18,319
shadow type beings um

1659
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:19,839
that's some of the tweets i need to pull

1660
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:21,440
up so i can read from them it's really

1661
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:23,920
good interesting stuff saw a little like

1662
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:26,640
a foot high little lizard in his house

1663
01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,319
just running and the cat went after it

1664
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:30,240
so he you know it's like

1665
01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:31,680
if you believe the way he told the story

1666
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:33,520
and then yeah there was something there

1667
01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:34,480
it's

1668
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:36,559
nothing ever went negative nothing ever

1669
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:38,480
happened negative with any of that he

1670
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,720
also talks about a remote viewing a ufo

1671
01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:42,000
sighting

1672
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:43,520
in the middle of the session

1673
01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:45,280
he says his dead father showed up but

1674
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,960
he's like you're not my dead father

1675
01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:48,240
because the way that the father was

1676
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:49,839
acting is not the way his father would

1677
01:01:52,789 --> 01:01:51,200
act he's like

1678
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:52,799
sorry this is all nonsense and the thing

1679
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:55,039
just blinked out so

1680
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:56,160
they were trying to trick him for

1681
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:57,440
whatever reason they were trying to get

1682
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:58,640
him out of there

1683
01:02:01,829 --> 01:02:00,720
telling them you don't belong here

1684
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:01,839
because then you hear stories about

1685
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:03,359
people who have close encounters earlier

1686
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,400
in the day they'll see their dead

1687
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,960
relatives or part of the close encounter

1688
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,720
is it really their dead relative and i'm

1689
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:10,559
skeptical

1690
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:14,000
people get upset by that but it's like

1691
01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:15,760
if they can take any form they want if

1692
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:17,359
that's true

1693
01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:26,549
who am i talking about with what i i

1694
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:27,839
kind of lost

1695
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:29,839
the english hacker gary mckinnon i think

1696
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:32,000
i just started following him

1697
01:02:37,029 --> 01:02:34,960
i know he said that he found

1698
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:37,039
yeah i mean i'm open so maybe that you

1699
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:38,720
know but we do have guys that went to

1700
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,799
space and

1701
01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:42,640
i need to look more into mckenna

1702
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:44,799
mckinnon's stuff i know the story and i

1703
01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:52,470
yeah i would love i know

1704
01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:54,480
it's not i i would love for more people

1705
01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:57,440
to hack into stuff fine i i i do support

1706
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:58,960
whistleblowers

1707
01:03:01,430 --> 01:03:00,000
as long as they're not giving

1708
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,440
information that's going to get us

1709
01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:03,599
screwed over in some sort of battle

1710
01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:05,200
anything other than that

1711
01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:07,359
i support it i mean i love that guys

1712
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:09,280
were leaking to corbell

1713
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:10,640
um

1714
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:12,480
i hope we get more of that that hasn't

1715
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:15,280
hurt us whatsoever you know

1716
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:16,880
and they did investigate and try to find

1717
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,640
out who was leaking as far as i know

1718
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:20,640
they did not find them

1719
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:22,480
i haven't heard anything but i know that

1720
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:23,680
i know

1721
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:27,520
place

1722
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:31,039
penetration i have a great source on

1723
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:33,920
penetration which remind peter remind me

1724
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:36,640
i need to i'll pull i have a

1725
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,720
a message about penetration what parts

1726
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:40,240
you should believe what parts you should

1727
01:03:44,150 --> 01:03:42,000
take with a grain of salt of course

1728
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:44,160
that's just this person's opinion there

1729
01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:45,440
are other people who think the entire

1730
01:03:48,789 --> 01:03:47,359
book is quality but the person i spoke

1731
01:03:50,350 --> 01:03:48,799
to with

1732
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:50,360
did not believe that um

1733
01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:52,559
[Music]

1734
01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:55,200
so remind me and i will i will try to

1735
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:56,559
pull that

1736
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:58,559
private message i had i just won't put

1737
01:04:01,990 --> 01:04:00,240
the name with it but it's about english

1738
01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:02,000
swan and penetration which i read which

1739
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:03,200
i loved

1740
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:05,520
back then engle swan was great when i

1741
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:07,119
first heard about remote viewing he had

1742
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:10,079
his entire online book i would read a

1743
01:04:13,109 --> 01:04:11,680
chapter every couple of days it was so

1744
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:13,119
good and i think you could still find it

1745
01:04:17,349 --> 01:04:15,599
online it was posted somewhere else

1746
01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:17,359
really in depth his thoughts about

1747
01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:20,480
remote viewing and how it all works

1748
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:22,000
remote viewing is nothing different from

1749
01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:23,680
mediumship the only difference is the

1750
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:26,160
morphic field i don't know how it works

1751
01:04:30,789 --> 01:04:28,319
or if there's a morphic field i think um

1752
01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:30,799
rupert sheldon drake talks about morphic

1753
01:04:35,510 --> 01:04:32,559
morphic fields i think that's

1754
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:35,520
shell drake um

1755
01:04:38,870 --> 01:04:37,039
i don't know if they're if they're the

1756
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:38,880
same thing they might very well be the

1757
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:40,400
same ability

1758
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:41,839
i'm not convinced that mediums are

1759
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:44,160
talking to the dead um they might be i

1760
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:46,160
just don't know how you prove that

1761
01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:51,270
i know the big thing as well if you

1762
01:04:55,510 --> 01:04:52,640
can't figure out how it works and give

1763
01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:55,520
us the scientific explanation for how it

1764
01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:58,079
works we don't want to hear it well

1765
01:05:04,630 --> 01:05:01,039
if you can come up with the with data

1766
01:05:06,390 --> 01:05:04,640
via your sixth sense sense

1767
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:06,400
uh beyond chance

1768
01:05:09,750 --> 01:05:07,920
i think it's something that should be

1769
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:09,760
taken seriously i i have no doubt remote

1770
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:11,440
viewing works because i took the class

1771
01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:13,119
with lindby cannon and prudence

1772
01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:14,319
calabrese

1773
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:15,599
and i got stuff that i shouldn't have

1774
01:05:19,829 --> 01:05:17,440
got nothing amazing i'm not a great

1775
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:19,839
remote viewer um

1776
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:21,920
but there are people that have a great

1777
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:22,880
sessions and they come up with

1778
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,589
um

1779
01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:30,950
yeah

1780
01:05:35,029 --> 01:05:32,079
he's there

1781
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:35,039
i've communicated with him um that 2019

1782
01:05:39,670 --> 01:05:37,920
case i think is going to be

1783
01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:39,680
i would say better than the tic tac but

1784
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:43,119
it's 2019 versus 2004.

1785
01:05:46,309 --> 01:05:44,480
so

1786
01:05:48,789 --> 01:05:46,319
he said he has said he has spoken to

1787
01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:48,799
people on the ship so hopefully we hear

1788
01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:50,960
from them we get to see them speaking

1789
01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:53,520
about what they experienced then

1790
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:55,119
you know i know people don't like jeremy

1791
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:56,720
so like i don't believe the two i don't

1792
01:06:00,069 --> 01:05:57,920
like germany and i don't believe the

1793
01:06:01,430 --> 01:06:00,079
2019 events listen

1794
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:01,440
whether you like him or not that's

1795
01:06:05,829 --> 01:06:04,079
irrelevant to the 2019 events they were

1796
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:05,839
able to access and i need to pull up all

1797
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:07,839
the information put it together the

1798
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:09,920
classified report i think they were

1799
01:06:13,829 --> 01:06:11,200
either told about it or they looked at

1800
01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:13,839
it i'm not positive i i forgot exactly

1801
01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:15,520
what that is but the information they're

1802
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:17,599
sharing is from those reports

1803
01:06:20,390 --> 01:06:18,720
now

1804
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:20,400
it's going to be a lot different people

1805
01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:22,079
won't be able to take shots at jeremy

1806
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:23,760
and say i don't believe him if these

1807
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:26,319
guys come out and speak on camera so

1808
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:27,920
that's what we need

1809
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,190
crap my sleep

1810
01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:38,789
oh goodnight peter

1811
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:41,119
thank you again and um

1812
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:44,000
i gotta look up your

1813
01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:46,720
translate your message from earlier

1814
01:06:50,309 --> 01:06:49,039
thanks for being here

1815
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:50,319
are you able to hint at what might be

1816
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:53,599
coming this week nope nope nope nope

1817
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:55,680
not a blockbuster thing just interesting

1818
01:07:01,029 --> 01:06:57,599
that

1819
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:01,039
um let's see

1820
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:02,720
just more

1821
01:07:08,630 --> 01:07:07,039
don't want to say anything not my place

1822
01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:08,640
but it's not going to be just this week

1823
01:07:12,069 --> 01:07:09,760
it's going to continue throughout the

1824
01:07:15,029 --> 01:07:12,079
year in the next couple of years

1825
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:15,039
as an example skin at the pentagon

1826
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:17,760
nobody knew that was coming i mean

1827
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:20,559
i got a heads up on the book but before

1828
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:22,240
i was told and before i was given the

1829
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:24,000
heads up i had no idea that book was

1830
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:25,200
coming out

1831
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,319
um

1832
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:29,039
stuff like that i know some people like

1833
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:30,480
haven't even read it they don't want to

1834
01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:32,319
read it which is beyond me it's one of

1835
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:34,400
my favorite ufo books in a long time you

1836
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,920
know we get to see an inside look of how

1837
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:37,680
that program came together

1838
01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:39,119
um

1839
01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:41,680
stuff like that so

1840
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:43,680
and then you know jim semivan was on

1841
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:45,119
coast to coast the other day that was

1842
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,200
something i wasn't expecting

1843
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:49,520
things like that um

1844
01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:50,799
it's not like a it's not this

1845
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:52,079
mind-blowing thing that's supposed to

1846
01:07:56,309 --> 01:07:53,520
happen this week it's just more more

1847
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,319
information that's it more information

1848
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:58,319
for me i want to know as much as

1849
01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,119
possible about as much as possible about

1850
01:08:05,270 --> 01:08:03,200
everything if more information about the

1851
01:08:07,190 --> 01:08:05,280
tic tac came out great of course we all

1852
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:07,200
want more than three videos we've been

1853
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:10,880
debating it gets really old debating

1854
01:08:16,149 --> 01:08:13,359
amazing this community has debated three

1855
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:16,159
videos for four years until corbell's

1856
01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:17,520
videos came out and then those were

1857
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:19,359
debated but the government videos taken

1858
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:22,159
from the f-18s the flair videos we were

1859
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:24,159
able to take four years and debate that

1860
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:26,560
stuff and hopefully we'll get something

1861
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:27,440
new

1862
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:30,480
from a flier from an f-18

1863
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:33,120
um yeah i want to see more from 2019 i

1864
01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:34,799
don't think there are any f-18 flair

1865
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:37,040
videos but you never know i have not

1866
01:08:40,269 --> 01:08:38,480
heard anything about that

1867
01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:40,279
so

1868
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:43,520
2019 yes please please that would be

1869
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:44,640
amazing

1870
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:46,960
the people i think the people who keep

1871
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:48,960
saying it's drones

1872
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,120
would have to

1873
01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:53,520
finally admit that

1874
01:08:56,550 --> 01:08:55,040
it's not drones

1875
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:56,560
i don't know what it is i mean i can't

1876
01:09:01,990 --> 01:08:58,159
say 100

1877
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:02,000
i'm telling you what i've heard

1878
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:05,520
is 100 the folks i hear from are like

1879
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:07,359
no these things did things that we don't

1880
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:09,359
have the technology for it's not

1881
01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:11,600
anything we know about so it's a true

1882
01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:12,640
unknown

1883
01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:14,719
so

1884
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:19,040
higher ups too that

1885
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:20,719
the higher upper breast i don't know

1886
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:23,920
what that stuff is so

1887
01:09:27,749 --> 01:09:26,239
exciting to hear more about that case

1888
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:27,759
and we'll hear more from jeremy and

1889
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,520
george and they've both vetted it george

1890
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:31,279
has been at this for a long time and

1891
01:09:35,590 --> 01:09:33,199
jeremy has said it he goes

1892
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:35,600
there's people are just hoping he messes

1893
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:38,400
up they were just hoping so he's extra

1894
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:40,480
careful when he puts the information out

1895
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,950
yeah jeremy's been really open so

1896
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:48,400
exactly don't believe you don't have to

1897
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:50,480
believe or disbelieve exactly just he's

1898
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:52,400
reading from the reports he's not making

1899
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:54,080
stuff up and some of it's just put right

1900
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,920
there in black and white so you could

1901
01:09:58,630 --> 01:09:57,360
say that

1902
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:58,640
the people who were giving the

1903
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,640
information to him they fed him bogus

1904
01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:02,560
information or they were full the folks

1905
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:04,080
in the uap task force don't know what

1906
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:05,920
they're doing the navy folks don't know

1907
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:07,600
what they're doing the upper brass who

1908
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:09,360
say these are uap they don't know what

1909
01:10:13,590 --> 01:10:11,440
they're doing you know you can say all

1910
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:13,600
that but they go after corbell because

1911
01:10:17,189 --> 01:10:14,960
you don't like them it's just to me it's

1912
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:17,199
just i don't understand it

1913
01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:17,570
um

1914
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:20,400
[Music]

1915
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:21,760
it's like me

1916
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:24,320
anymore on lou's book no the last he

1917
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:25,760
said was he's working on it and it's

1918
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:27,280
hard work and

1919
01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:33,350
that is a book i will ho oh i cannot

1920
01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:35,760
wait to read that book i hope it's

1921
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:37,840
even you know i don't have like these i

1922
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:38,960
don't think he's going to talk about

1923
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:41,199
crash retrievals or bodies or anything

1924
01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:42,640
like that i want to see an insider's

1925
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:43,920
look about what happened because i'm

1926
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:45,520
sure there's stuff that we

1927
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:48,640
don't know about that he has said that

1928
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:50,800
and there maybe more names can come out

1929
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:51,760
um

1930
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:53,440
he's mentioned some bigger names that we

1931
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:55,199
would be familiar about

1932
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:57,360
we would be familiar with that you know

1933
01:11:01,750 --> 01:11:00,159
had a played a role in atip and i i want

1934
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:01,760
to know more about the whole transition

1935
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,000
from ossep to atip

1936
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:05,840
i would like to know more about that and

1937
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:06,960
uh

1938
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,679
maybe he can describe some of the books

1939
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:11,199
not books videos that they've seen

1940
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:12,960
that's one of the things i have a pet

1941
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:18,470
somebody like martin heinrich why can't

1942
01:11:21,030 --> 01:11:19,520
he say

1943
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:21,040
all right guys

1944
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,440
i can't tell you

1945
01:11:27,189 --> 01:11:25,440
i can't show you the videos that i was

1946
01:11:29,189 --> 01:11:27,199
shown but i can tell you what the

1947
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:29,199
objects did why is that classified why

1948
01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:30,880
can't martin heinrich or anybody who

1949
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:33,040
went in one of those briefings

1950
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:35,360
tell us what the objects are doing on

1951
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:37,280
video that doesn't give away sources and

1952
01:11:40,870 --> 01:11:38,880
methods i've made this argument before

1953
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:40,880
and it's really annoying

1954
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:42,080
um

1955
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:43,600
i know it's it's you know it's just

1956
01:11:46,149 --> 01:11:44,640
that's just the way it is it's a

1957
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:46,159
classified briefing and they can't talk

1958
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:47,199
about it well they should be able to

1959
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:49,760
talk about it i would love for

1960
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:51,760
heinrich or somebody to push that

1961
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:53,600
push that say i'm going to talk about

1962
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:56,320
what i saw because

1963
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,030
i think a great strategy for lou and his

1964
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:05,120
book would be to lay it out and let

1965
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:08,560
dobster filter out yeah i mean i don't

1966
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:10,400
think he'll put classified stuff in

1967
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:12,000
there but remember you have classified

1968
01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:15,360
stuff and then you have sensitive stuff

1969
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:17,840
that's yeah so there's a difference you

1970
01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:19,679
know i've gotten people have told me

1971
01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:21,280
sensitive information you can't share

1972
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:23,679
this but it's obviously not classified

1973
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:25,679
since they're sharing it with me

1974
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:27,679
so a lot of sensitive stuff has not been

1975
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:29,280
released i want that really i want that

1976
01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:30,800
stuff released too

1977
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:32,480
but i'm sure dobson will step in and say

1978
01:12:36,630 --> 01:12:34,960
you can't say this you can't say that

1979
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:36,640
i think dodie rick dodie somebody

1980
01:12:41,510 --> 01:12:39,199
mentioned him early he said

1981
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:41,520
a lot was taken out of his book he says

1982
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,960
a lot was taken out of his book i don't

1983
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:44,400
know when his book is supposed to come

1984
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:45,199
out

1985
01:12:50,149 --> 01:12:46,080
um

1986
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:51,590
yeah

1987
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:55,199
i i would think he'd be careful um

1988
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:57,199
i wonder how how long the the inspector

1989
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:58,640
general investigation is going to take

1990
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:00,800
because that's another thing

1991
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,960
that could be some good news for us if

1992
01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:04,560
they're like all right lou you can talk

1993
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:06,320
about this we don't see any reason why

1994
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:07,679
they would pull your security clearance

1995
01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:08,880
if you talk about this even though

1996
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:10,400
they're threatening to pull your

1997
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:12,000
security clearance if you talk about

1998
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,239
this we have decided you can talk about

1999
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:15,760
this that's where really what i would

2000
01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:17,600
love to see come from that because you

2001
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:19,440
know lou knows a lot more and not all

2002
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:21,040
that is classified

2003
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:22,719
and people do get pissed off about that

2004
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:24,320
they're like well if it's not classified

2005
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:26,239
what is it why doesn't he share it

2006
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,640
because it's sensitive that's

2007
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:30,480
i don't like that sensitive stuff it's

2008
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,910
if it's not classified

2009
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:37,120
share it

2010
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:38,080
people

2011
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:44,000
jim semivan talking about his abduction

2012
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:45,920
on coast to coast going into more detail

2013
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:47,840
than he's gone and nobody even bats an

2014
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:50,159
eye nobody in the media mainstream media

2015
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:51,840
wants to talk to him about it i mean

2016
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:53,600
come on

2017
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,760
where's the curiosity not one person in

2018
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:57,840
the mainstream media wants to talk about

2019
01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:00,400
talk to a former cia guy who was

2020
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:02,640
sharp is that he's very sharp semi-van

2021
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:04,320
you hear him talk about it

2022
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:11,189
there's truly no oversight for a lot of

2023
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:13,360
this info zodiac private aerospace

2024
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:15,120
getting advantages over other companies

2025
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:17,199
and then they can't be classified

2026
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:20,080
so he can put it in and by by the way i

2027
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:22,640
would not waste your time on zodiac

2028
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:24,239
i don't want to talk about

2029
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:27,280
specifics because i was told not to and

2030
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:28,719
it's not

2031
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:32,080
zodiac is kind of a red herring

2032
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:34,480
i mean yeah it has a role in that whole

2033
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:36,159
story but

2034
01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:39,360
not really something to focus on

2035
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:40,840
let's see

2036
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:43,040
what then it can't be classified so he

2037
01:14:46,709 --> 01:14:44,960
can put it in the book and if he does

2038
01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:46,719
get classified then little will know

2039
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:48,320
that congress isn't being adequately

2040
01:14:53,189 --> 01:14:50,159
informed and can feed the

2041
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:53,199
dobson react redactions to ig yeah he

2042
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:55,199
may do that i don't know

2043
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:56,480
um

2044
01:15:02,229 --> 01:14:58,320
hopefully that book is out by christmas

2045
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:03,270
what are your thoughts on the

2046
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:05,199
plausibility of the hypothesis that

2047
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:06,880
these beings are already here

2048
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,640
assimilated into human society and

2049
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:11,679
controlling us from the inside

2050
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:14,080
i'm hoping i am open to that i mean i

2051
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:15,440
know there are people who believe that

2052
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,880
and there are stories about that and

2053
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:18,000
there are people who have encountered

2054
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,520
allegedly encountered these beings who

2055
01:15:22,830 --> 01:15:21,440
look just like us

2056
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:22,840
could be

2057
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:25,679
um you start getting into conspiracy

2058
01:15:28,709 --> 01:15:26,480
world when you're saying they're

2059
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:28,719
controlling us from the inside but

2060
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,480
if they can look like if they could if

2061
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:32,560
they look like us well if if they are

2062
01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:33,760
controlling things from the inside

2063
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,159
they're doing a pretty bad job of it

2064
01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:38,640
unless their goal is chaos not that

2065
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:40,000
we're not not that the whole world is

2066
01:15:44,660 --> 01:15:42,560
chaos but as a whole you know it's like

2067
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,670
there's definitely not harmony um

2068
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:46,800
[Music]

2069
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:48,480
so yeah um

2070
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:50,159
and that that's that theory has been

2071
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:53,280
around for a while

2072
01:15:55,910 --> 01:15:54,960
not something i bring up with anybody

2073
01:15:57,910 --> 01:15:55,920
who's

2074
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:57,920
new to this who asks me my theories

2075
01:16:01,350 --> 01:16:00,080
about what's going on it's

2076
01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:01,360
it's really hard for people to believe

2077
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:03,120
that especially and if it did if that

2078
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:04,560
did turn out to be true people would

2079
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,679
freak out oh yeah they're among us they

2080
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:09,520
basically look like us and you cannot

2081
01:16:15,189 --> 01:16:11,120
tell the difference unless you look

2082
01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:17,669
unless you have the glasses to see them

2083
01:16:24,149 --> 01:16:20,400
as the movie they live with rowdy roddy

2084
01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:25,270
lou's been quiet he's done some

2085
01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:26,480
interviews he's going to be doing more

2086
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,920
interviews i think he's just focusing on

2087
01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:29,120
the book he said that in his

2088
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:30,960
coast-to-coast interview i need to i'll

2089
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:33,040
try to get that transcript out because

2090
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:34,480
if you missed coast to coast and you

2091
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:36,880
don't subscribe then you have no access

2092
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:38,400
to it so

2093
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:40,480
i have the semiband and lou interview

2094
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:42,080
done

2095
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:44,159
with hyperlinks which take me a while

2096
01:16:46,550 --> 01:16:45,040
but

2097
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:46,560
it's hard for me to do a transcript

2098
01:16:49,510 --> 01:16:48,080
without hyperlinks because if they

2099
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:49,520
mention something and i think somebody

2100
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:50,719
might not know what they're talking

2101
01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:51,600
about

2102
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:53,360
i link to it and there's a lot of stuff

2103
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:55,440
like that

2104
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:58,400
when dolan asked luis about zodiac yeah

2105
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:05,110
he i think lou knows what zodiac is but

2106
01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:06,400
no comment

2107
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,430
and mj 12 is another thing

2108
01:17:20,229 --> 01:17:17,600
i don't think there's an mj12 group

2109
01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:20,239
there may be a group that

2110
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:23,679
does do what mj12 supposedly did

2111
01:17:28,830 --> 01:17:26,000
or does but they're not called mj12

2112
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:28,840
which is semantics mg12 is something

2113
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:35,030
but i do think there are programs with

2114
01:17:39,830 --> 01:17:37,600
related to crash retrievals and bodies

2115
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:39,840
biological stuff and whatever else i do

2116
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:41,679
believe that

2117
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:43,360
and i say believe i definitely don't

2118
01:17:45,310 --> 01:17:44,960
know but

2119
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:45,320
um

2120
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:47,840
[Music]

2121
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:50,000
but i even if i say i believe i still

2122
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:52,320
want to see it i mean i can't say 100

2123
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:54,239
obviously you hear eric davis talk about

2124
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:57,360
it you see bernard h talk about it

2125
01:18:01,110 --> 01:17:59,280
kit green has to spoken about the core

2126
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:01,120
story which i don't think

2127
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:03,040
i don't think kit green still believes

2128
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:04,239
that and i don't have the core store

2129
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:06,400
corey memorized a couple of groups came

2130
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:07,760
here a couple of times and one of them

2131
01:18:12,149 --> 01:18:09,760
may have crashed we have one of their

2132
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:12,159
vehicles um it's kind of the basic core

2133
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:13,440
story

2134
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:17,590
i do remember of course i transcribed

2135
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:19,520
that the whole zodiac thing in the dolan

2136
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:26,790
don't focus on zodiac i'm trying

2137
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:29,040
unless i i'm pretty sure i was not given

2138
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:34,950
but then you have the whole story about

2139
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:37,440
i forget the the cartoon

2140
01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:38,800
i forget the whole thing that dolan

2141
01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:41,040
talks about that

2142
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,400
it's crash retrieval basically

2143
01:18:48,709 --> 01:18:46,320
names aside i think there's a crash

2144
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:48,719
retrieval program at least one program

2145
01:18:52,070 --> 01:18:50,640
and corbell and knapp and other people

2146
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:52,080
like bernard hayes have talked about

2147
01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:54,960
other programs it's in valet's book

2148
01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:57,679
um his fiction book

2149
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:58,080
that

2150
01:19:01,669 --> 01:18:59,840
[Music]

2151
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,679
julianna mirankovic wrote an article

2152
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:03,360
about where he talks there's some things

2153
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:05,280
that mimic

2154
01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:08,000
the wilson davis document so it's almost

2155
01:19:10,870 --> 01:19:08,880
like

2156
01:19:22,229 --> 01:19:10,880
valet wrote fiction but he threw some of

2157
01:19:22,239 --> 01:19:27,830
that's a good point we'll see um

2158
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:30,149
i don't think he's gonna go that far um

2159
01:19:35,189 --> 01:19:31,520
i think he'll play it by the books but

2160
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:36,630
i think mj 12 was just a cover for

2161
01:19:47,590 --> 01:19:42,709
i would

2162
01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:47,600
really matter obviously mj12 like group

2163
01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:52,080
yep i think i think um and

2164
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:54,880
various ufo-related programs which i

2165
01:20:02,390 --> 01:19:56,800
really hope i get to see and we get to

2166
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:07,910
yeah i hope so jeff we'll see um

2167
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:11,990
let's be pleasantly surprised and

2168
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:14,159
i'd be paranoid just writing the book i

2169
01:20:18,950 --> 01:20:16,880
mean it's like when lukaszki said they

2170
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:18,960
had to send the book

2171
01:20:22,149 --> 01:20:20,480
a certain way

2172
01:20:24,070 --> 01:20:22,159
you had to protect the book when you

2173
01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:24,080
sent it to dobson because

2174
01:20:27,110 --> 01:20:25,520
they have to assume there might be

2175
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:27,120
classified material in the book so if

2176
01:20:29,830 --> 01:20:28,400
you're going to send it to the folks at

2177
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:29,840
dobster you have to do it a certain way

2178
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:32,960
so nobody can breach your email or who

2179
01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:39,750
so

2180
01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:43,280
yeah i'd be paranoid writing that book

2181
01:20:47,110 --> 01:20:45,040
make sure you make a copy of it make

2182
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:47,120
sure it's safe somewhere

2183
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:49,280
beside your computer joe have you read

2184
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:51,199
the allagash abductions i know about the

2185
01:20:55,910 --> 01:20:54,560
alligator subductions i have not read it

2186
01:20:56,350 --> 01:20:55,920
yes yes

2187
01:20:58,149 --> 01:20:56,360
um

2188
01:21:00,550 --> 01:20:58,159
[Music]

2189
01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:00,560
and for me abductions are a real thing i

2190
01:21:08,629 --> 01:21:07,270
projecting those images into their into

2191
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:08,639
their minds i don't know if it's

2192
01:21:13,750 --> 01:21:11,199
physical i know people have scars so

2193
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:13,760
maybe it's a mixture of

2194
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:15,520
psychic meaning it you know it's

2195
01:21:19,669 --> 01:21:17,199
projected into their minds it's not

2196
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:19,679
really happening physically and

2197
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:21,760
also physical um

2198
01:21:27,189 --> 01:21:24,239
i mean for my my favorite abduction case

2199
01:21:30,149 --> 01:21:27,199
because the way they portrayed it is in

2200
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:32,310
show what was it called uh oh unsolved

2201
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:34,560
mysteries the

2202
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:36,480
what the heck's the name of that area

2203
01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:38,320
but it's the best

2204
01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:40,159
it shows you that

2205
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:42,560
they picked up people went one by one by

2206
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:43,679
one

2207
01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:45,120
and you guys will remember what it was

2208
01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:46,880
called but it was uh it was recently

2209
01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:50,800
last year it was uh unsolved mysteries

2210
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:53,840
the something it's a certain area of

2211
01:22:02,470 --> 01:22:00,310
what book would i recommend for someone

2212
01:22:05,820 --> 01:22:02,480
to read on this or related subjects if

2213
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:05,830
you could only recommend one

2214
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,960
[Music]

2215
01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:10,400
depends on if you want to get into the

2216
01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:12,560
history i have not read it yet but i've

2217
01:22:18,550 --> 01:22:15,440
heard so many great things about it

2218
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:18,560
i don't even know the name of the book

2219
01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:20,480
it's in my kindle which i don't think i

2220
01:22:24,709 --> 01:22:23,280
have up right now i might

2221
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:24,719
i don't have it i'm trying to think of

2222
01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:27,040
one book

2223
01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:28,239
the fact that

2224
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:30,159
skinwalkers at the pentagon which is one

2225
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:31,600
of my favorite books talks about the

2226
01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:34,320
connection between

2227
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:36,639
ufos and the other

2228
01:22:40,629 --> 01:22:38,960
related subjects like paranormal for me

2229
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:40,639
that's such an important step that we're

2230
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:41,840
taking

2231
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:43,120
i didn't realize there was that a

2232
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:44,560
connection like that until i saw eric

2233
01:22:48,950 --> 01:22:45,920
davis mentioned

2234
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:48,960
he said he said all ufo sightings are

2235
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:51,280
accompanied by polar guys

2236
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:53,199
are accompanied by poltergeist i think

2237
01:22:55,990 --> 01:22:54,639
what he meant all close encounters

2238
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:56,000
because people who have close encounters

2239
01:23:00,070 --> 01:22:57,920
it seems like it always happens

2240
01:23:01,669 --> 01:23:00,080
poltergeist activity comes

2241
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:01,679
the folks who went to skinwalker took

2242
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:04,000
stuff home with them so that seems to

2243
01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:05,120
happen

2244
01:23:09,669 --> 01:23:07,360
um george knapp is under the impression

2245
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:09,679
he believes that yeah some of the pilots

2246
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:11,920
it might have happened with them

2247
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:14,320
um it spreads you know it spreads to

2248
01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:15,520
people it spreads to neighbors it

2249
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:17,600
spreads to people uh in the family so

2250
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:19,600
yeah that's important for me

2251
01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:21,440
it's not just about ufos so that's a

2252
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:27,350
but it's not your like historical ufo

2253
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:29,679
book russ coltar's book in plain sight

2254
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:32,080
is a great book for history

2255
01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:34,000
i'm trying to think leslie kane's book i

2256
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:35,600
mean it's a little outdated now but the

2257
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:38,159
information is still good

2258
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:40,560
um i'm trying to think

2259
01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:42,880
i have to think about it um richard

2260
01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:45,199
dolan's books two massive books on the

2261
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:47,120
history of ufology but that's just

2262
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:48,880
history citing after citing and it's

2263
01:23:51,990 --> 01:23:51,199
good to see government documents

2264
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:52,000
um

2265
01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:53,360
as far as you start off with a

2266
01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:56,239
documentary the phenomenon by james fox

2267
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:58,239
is great ross cultart's documentary is

2268
01:24:01,510 --> 01:24:00,000
really good

2269
01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:01,520
lou said he's working on the documentary

2270
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:03,040
that's going to be the documentary to

2271
01:24:08,629 --> 01:24:05,600
end all documentaries on ufos

2272
01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:08,639
so i'll look forward to that too

2273
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:10,719
i love me a good documentary and then we

2274
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:12,560
have

2275
01:24:15,750 --> 01:24:14,719
charlie charlie parish who's working on

2276
01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:15,760
a

2277
01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:22,480
i'm sure it's going to be very

2278
01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:25,600
theatrical very cinematic because

2279
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:27,199
most of the regular ones are not they're

2280
01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:30,719
more like very cut and dry so i would

2281
01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:32,880
expect more of a movie

2282
01:24:35,990 --> 01:24:34,639
style

2283
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:36,000
cinematic

2284
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:38,080
which i love so

2285
01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:39,920
some of the documentaries on netflix are

2286
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:41,199
like that

2287
01:24:50,629 --> 01:24:49,110
luis always plays by the rules he's a

2288
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:50,639
pretty savvy guy and between him and

2289
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:52,480
melon i'm sure they can use those rules

2290
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:53,840
through their their advantage and

2291
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:55,840
accomplish their objectives it's all

2292
01:25:03,030 --> 01:24:57,520
going to be about congress

2293
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:04,550
congress needs to stay on the pentagon

2294
01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:06,480
make sure

2295
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:08,159
we get number one we get funding that's

2296
01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:09,360
a big thing we don't know what funding

2297
01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:11,520
that that office is getting

2298
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:12,639
number two

2299
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:14,159
they go out and investigate cases as

2300
01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:15,440
they're happening

2301
01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:17,760
and they basically do what ocep did you

2302
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,360
know with the with the human effects

2303
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:21,280
that's a big part of it

2304
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:23,040
and if they do that they'll they'll

2305
01:25:25,830 --> 01:25:24,560
they'll come across cases where people

2306
01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:25,840
have the hitchhiker stuff it's gonna

2307
01:25:28,550 --> 01:25:27,440
happen so what are you gonna do ignore

2308
01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:28,560
it

2309
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,679
our members of congress to stay on this

2310
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,280
i just want the tech to be real whether

2311
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,040
we can understand it or not the fact

2312
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:39,280
that exists would just be incredible on

2313
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:42,239
its own maybe the technology that

2314
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:44,639
that was crashed or whatever is really

2315
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:46,320
nothing that can be reverse engineered

2316
01:25:50,070 --> 01:25:47,920
and maybe that's why we've not been able

2317
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:50,080
to reverse engineer it

2318
01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:51,199
you know it might be like another

2319
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:52,639
another one of those trickster type

2320
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:55,760
things i don't know i mean you you

2321
01:25:58,950 --> 01:25:57,199
listen to will miller and we have been

2322
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:58,960
able to back engineer stuff and eric

2323
01:26:02,470 --> 01:26:00,719
davis says the opposite so no we have

2324
01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:02,480
not been able to back engineer it's been

2325
01:26:05,830 --> 01:26:04,000
a dead end

2326
01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:05,840
that's been a failure because we can't

2327
01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:08,400
understand it so

2328
01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:10,080
if it is a failure and we've not been

2329
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,760
able to understand anything like i said

2330
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:14,320
maybe the possibility that it's

2331
01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:15,679
something that we'll never be able to

2332
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:17,040
figure out but

2333
01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:20,719
you know i don't know you know

2334
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:23,600
hopefully people like eric davis

2335
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:25,840
if we do get access to that program he

2336
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:27,520
gets to see that stuff and gets to work

2337
01:26:34,149 --> 01:26:29,600
on it and then eventually we get to see

2338
01:26:38,229 --> 01:26:35,830
can you talk about the new ufo movie

2339
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:38,239
that's coming in july nope

2340
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:39,760
yeah i saw the preview that's all i know

2341
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:41,040
about it

2342
01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:42,719
preview looks good

2343
01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:44,800
that last scene where the the it was

2344
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:46,800
like a teenager was sucked into the sky

2345
01:26:49,189 --> 01:26:47,760
so

2346
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:49,199
um

2347
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:50,800
seems like it's gonna be one of those

2348
01:26:54,790 --> 01:26:52,560
weird scary movies i mean i'm definitely

2349
01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:54,800
gonna see it um i'm not sure if it's

2350
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:55,760
gonna be

2351
01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:58,400
based on any real cases or any

2352
01:27:01,669 --> 01:26:59,840
you know

2353
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:01,679
try to stick to what the evidence shows

2354
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,280
as far as what real cases are it might

2355
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:05,840
just be more of a hollywoodish look

2356
01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:08,800
but i can't wait

2357
01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:10,320
um communion

2358
01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:12,239
i'm not sure communion is a great

2359
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:13,520
starter book

2360
01:27:16,550 --> 01:27:15,760
i mean it was for me the first book i

2361
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:16,560
read

2362
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:18,960
scared the crap out of me

2363
01:27:21,270 --> 01:27:19,920
i mean

2364
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:21,280
and that

2365
01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:22,960
and of course people now say joe you

2366
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,719
need to look into metaphysics well i

2367
01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:26,400
first got my start in metaphysics and

2368
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:27,920
then some guy on twitter was starting to

2369
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:31,360
talk really in-depth metaphysics but no

2370
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:33,280
i do not know really in-depth

2371
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:35,199
metaphysics and he was a psychologist

2372
01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:36,480
and he was talking over my head and like

2373
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:38,639
no i don't know that stuff i know

2374
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:40,400
the basics i was part of a metaphysical

2375
01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:42,080
church i got married by the metaphysical

2376
01:27:45,590 --> 01:27:43,280
minister

2377
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:45,600
i took psych psychic development classes

2378
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:48,480
i took course in miracles classes i mean

2379
01:27:53,189 --> 01:27:51,760
i was really into it um and then

2380
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:53,199
i was like you know what i think a lot

2381
01:27:57,910 --> 01:27:56,000
of this stuff is crap um

2382
01:27:59,270 --> 01:27:57,920
i don't reject it but a lot of it is

2383
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:59,280
especially the channel stuff though a

2384
01:28:03,669 --> 01:28:01,600
lot of that stuff my god so many bad

2385
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:03,679
predictions this was ridiculous the

2386
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:05,360
berkshires thank you john yes the

2387
01:28:09,510 --> 01:28:08,159
berkshires case is just amazing

2388
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:09,520
there's more information if you go on

2389
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:11,040
youtube those folks have spoken out

2390
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:13,440
there's more details

2391
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:15,120
about their cases

2392
01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:16,560
and other

2393
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:18,239
other encounters that they had personal

2394
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:20,560
experiences

2395
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:22,320
thank you zuri yes

2396
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:23,920
folks if you've not seen the unsolved

2397
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:26,719
unsolved mysteries berkshires it's

2398
01:28:30,470 --> 01:28:28,800
shot incredibly well

2399
01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:30,480
i mean for me i work in television but

2400
01:28:34,470 --> 01:28:32,400
it just looks so good

2401
01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:34,480
um really well done

2402
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:36,880
the witnesses are so solid

2403
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:38,560
definitely a must-watch

2404
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:40,320
i sent it to my sister who's not really

2405
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:42,239
interested in it i think all she said

2406
01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:44,320
was interesting

2407
01:28:47,669 --> 01:28:45,840
lou and chris would probably want to

2408
01:28:48,950 --> 01:28:47,679
provide top cover to congress to be able

2409
01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:48,960
to talk about the subject publicly

2410
01:28:54,709 --> 01:28:50,960
without ridicule public engagement via

2411
01:28:59,830 --> 01:28:57,189
something like loose book would be

2412
01:29:02,550 --> 01:28:59,840
critical to accomplishing that lou has

2413
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:02,560
talked about this the five pillars

2414
01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:04,480
yeah um

2415
01:29:08,470 --> 01:29:05,440
that's why

2416
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:08,480
melon said he focused on flight safety

2417
01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:11,280
and national security which gave them

2418
01:29:15,669 --> 01:29:13,920
reasons and cover to speak out

2419
01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:15,679
rubio even though rubio's gone a little

2420
01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:18,000
further in some of his interviews

2421
01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:19,920
he can speak about ufos and say this is

2422
01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:21,760
a flight safety issue this is a national

2423
01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:24,080
security issue we have objects that we

2424
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:25,120
don't know where they come from and

2425
01:29:29,110 --> 01:29:27,040
they're going into restricted mil

2426
01:29:30,470 --> 01:29:29,120
restricted military air space and we

2427
01:29:32,070 --> 01:29:30,480
don't know what they are

2428
01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:32,080
how could we not look into that so that

2429
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:34,239
gave them cover and it was a great great

2430
01:29:41,110 --> 01:29:39,120
strategy strategy by melon to do that

2431
01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:41,120
according to ryan bledsoe jordan peele

2432
01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:42,719
the director wanted to do a movie on the

2433
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:45,040
blood cell story so maybe peel has a

2434
01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:46,960
pre-existing interest in the topic if

2435
01:29:55,990 --> 01:29:55,189
i hope it's based on some real cases and

2436
01:29:56,950 --> 01:29:56,000
it

2437
01:29:58,870 --> 01:29:56,960
isn't that

2438
01:30:00,070 --> 01:29:58,880
is that the same director that did get

2439
01:30:02,310 --> 01:30:00,080
out

2440
01:30:02,670 --> 01:30:02,320
because it feels like that

2441
01:30:04,390 --> 01:30:02,680
um

2442
01:30:06,629 --> 01:30:04,400
[Music]

2443
01:30:08,229 --> 01:30:06,639
there was another i think not get out

2444
01:30:09,830 --> 01:30:08,239
well yeah get out i think there was a

2445
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:09,840
couple of movies that he's done i'm not

2446
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:15,669
what do you think about operation trojan

2447
01:30:20,229 --> 01:30:17,280
horses uh oh

2448
01:30:22,390 --> 01:30:20,239
i think operation trojan horse thank you

2449
01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:22,400
gabby um

2450
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:23,840
for people who are just getting into

2451
01:30:29,350 --> 01:30:26,400
this it might be a bit much but it it it

2452
01:30:30,790 --> 01:30:29,360
goes over the history and john keel

2453
01:30:32,629 --> 01:30:30,800
who also wrote

2454
01:30:34,470 --> 01:30:32,639
mothman prophecies in a lot of other

2455
01:30:36,550 --> 01:30:34,480
books operation trojan horse was a

2456
01:30:38,790 --> 01:30:36,560
really oh my yeah

2457
01:30:39,910 --> 01:30:38,800
that's a great call it is a must-read

2458
01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:39,920
book

2459
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:43,120
um there's so much information in that

2460
01:30:47,430 --> 01:30:45,360
going back to the beginning um the old

2461
01:30:49,189 --> 01:30:47,440
days the 40s 50s and

2462
01:30:50,950 --> 01:30:49,199
his theories he's one of the first that

2463
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:50,960
was talking about

2464
01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:52,239
well it's not him but there were other

2465
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:53,760
people in the 50s that were talking

2466
01:30:57,350 --> 01:30:55,679
about paraphysical this is not some

2467
01:30:58,950 --> 01:30:57,360
extraterrestrial intelligence it's

2468
01:31:00,070 --> 01:30:58,960
something

2469
01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:00,080
you know

2470
01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:02,560
in the non-physical realm it can create

2471
01:31:08,470 --> 01:31:05,920
things it can manifest things um

2472
01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:08,480
just in 1970 it was published written

2473
01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:10,880
and published in 1970 so

2474
01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:13,440
yeah great book operation trojan horse

2475
01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,400
i'll put the link in the comments

2476
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:18,639
a lot of people use my amazon links to

2477
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:21,120
buy books which it helps it's not a lot

2478
01:31:26,070 --> 01:31:23,520
of money but it helps it adds up

2479
01:31:28,629 --> 01:31:26,080
um as people most people know i'm trying

2480
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:28,639
to do this full-time i'm not there not

2481
01:31:32,790 --> 01:31:30,800
even close but

2482
01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:32,800
i could see in a future where that could

2483
01:31:35,510 --> 01:31:34,000
happen

2484
01:31:37,510 --> 01:31:35,520
especially if more and more people get

2485
01:31:38,629 --> 01:31:37,520
into this which hopefully will continue

2486
01:31:42,470 --> 01:31:38,639
to happen

2487
01:31:44,390 --> 01:31:42,480
i have like 15 200 followers on twitter

2488
01:31:45,910 --> 01:31:44,400
when i did my newsletter the most i ever

2489
01:31:46,790 --> 01:31:45,920
had was 800

2490
01:31:50,790 --> 01:31:46,800
so

2491
01:31:55,430 --> 01:31:53,669
a guy like me has 15 000 followers and i

2492
01:31:56,950 --> 01:31:55,440
don't really say anything any anything

2493
01:31:59,189 --> 01:31:56,960
fancy-schmancy i don't make any

2494
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:59,199
predictions so it's nice to see that

2495
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:00,880
people are willing to listen to

2496
01:32:09,270 --> 01:32:07,590
i try to keep it

2497
01:32:11,030 --> 01:32:09,280
conservative but

2498
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:11,040
i mean you've seen some of my

2499
01:32:15,669 --> 01:32:13,440
tweets i'm i'm not i talk about an

2500
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:15,679
intelligence that might be using human

2501
01:32:20,229 --> 01:32:18,480
beings as you know for our our negative

2502
01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:20,239
energy and feeding off of that energy i

2503
01:32:23,350 --> 01:32:21,920
got so much flack from some people i'm

2504
01:32:24,950 --> 01:32:23,360
just talking about that but there are a

2505
01:32:27,189 --> 01:32:24,960
lot of people that have the longer

2506
01:32:29,110 --> 01:32:27,199
spoken about it

2507
01:32:31,270 --> 01:32:29,120
the lightning rod david ike has spoken

2508
01:32:32,709 --> 01:32:31,280
about it um

2509
01:32:34,390 --> 01:32:32,719
what's his name

2510
01:32:36,070 --> 01:32:34,400
it was a long time ago i forget his name

2511
01:32:37,830 --> 01:32:36,080
he was um

2512
01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:37,840
shoot

2513
01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:39,679
knapp and kelleher spoke about it as a

2514
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:41,280
possibility you know this intelligence

2515
01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:43,120
gets a reaction and then it feeds off

2516
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:44,320
the fear

2517
01:32:46,629 --> 01:32:45,600
and then you have

2518
01:32:48,870 --> 01:32:46,639
um

2519
01:32:52,950 --> 01:32:48,880
that guy's i forget his name i'm drawing

2520
01:32:58,149 --> 01:32:54,709
paul eno talks about that that's his

2521
01:32:59,910 --> 01:32:58,159
theory these these these parasites they

2522
01:33:01,990 --> 01:32:59,920
they feed off of

2523
01:33:04,229 --> 01:33:02,000
anything and negative in our lives they

2524
01:33:06,149 --> 01:33:04,239
love that stuff and

2525
01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:06,159
if that's the case just for example for

2526
01:33:09,189 --> 01:33:07,760
argument's sake yeah there's some

2527
01:33:10,629 --> 01:33:09,199
parasites that feed off of negative

2528
01:33:12,550 --> 01:33:10,639
energy it doesn't mean

2529
01:33:14,070 --> 01:33:12,560
they're evil demons it just means that's

2530
01:33:15,590 --> 01:33:14,080
just what it is that you know they need

2531
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:15,600
that to survive so

2532
01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:17,360
you know we do things to survive that

2533
01:33:20,229 --> 01:33:18,719
people would shake certain people would

2534
01:33:21,750 --> 01:33:20,239
shake their heads out while you kill all

2535
01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:21,760
those cattle to survive and eat their

2536
01:33:25,510 --> 01:33:23,920
meat well yeah it's like not evil we

2537
01:33:27,430 --> 01:33:25,520
don't consider that evil

2538
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:27,440
get out in us yes those are the two

2539
01:33:36,790 --> 01:33:34,950
i have not spoken

2540
01:33:38,229 --> 01:33:36,800
see gabby you could be my producer i'm

2541
01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:38,239
sure you have spoken about this but what

2542
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:39,600
did you think of linda multnow's

2543
01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:42,000
interview with the guy from kurt

2544
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:45,360
jomangle from theories of everything um

2545
01:33:49,990 --> 01:33:48,480
real quick i thought that it was fine

2546
01:33:51,750 --> 01:33:50,000
especially when she's talking about her

2547
01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:51,760
early days and

2548
01:33:56,709 --> 01:33:54,000
cattle mutilations which

2549
01:33:59,590 --> 01:33:56,719
um she did a strange harvest uh

2550
01:34:01,510 --> 01:33:59,600
documentary and

2551
01:34:05,270 --> 01:34:01,520
that stuff was great she spoke about her

2552
01:34:06,790 --> 01:34:05,280
hbo documentary what happened and how

2553
01:34:08,310 --> 01:34:06,800
when she went to meet with dodie how

2554
01:34:10,550 --> 01:34:08,320
that kind of was the end of the

2555
01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:10,560
documentary and

2556
01:34:13,270 --> 01:34:12,400
they wanted more evidence from her and

2557
01:34:14,629 --> 01:34:13,280
then

2558
01:34:15,910 --> 01:34:14,639
kurt asked her

2559
01:34:17,669 --> 01:34:15,920
what do you think about people who say

2560
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:17,679
that you're

2561
01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:19,600
you haven't vetted your guest as much

2562
01:34:22,709 --> 01:34:21,280
over the years from the beginning you've

2563
01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:22,719
changed by how much you vetted and she

2564
01:34:29,350 --> 01:34:25,199
reacted really bad

2565
01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:29,360
um and i agree with that i mean yeah

2566
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:31,360
um

2567
01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:33,679
over the years i just think a lot of her

2568
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:35,679
stuff i'll listen to some of her her

2569
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:37,199
witnesses and they don't sound credible

2570
01:34:40,870 --> 01:34:38,080
to me

2571
01:34:42,550 --> 01:34:40,880
so yeah you know

2572
01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:42,560
she was defensive which i understand i

2573
01:34:47,030 --> 01:34:44,480
mean she's 80 years old it's amazing how

2574
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:47,040
much energy she still has but

2575
01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:48,480
the other question was

2576
01:34:53,430 --> 01:34:51,600
i thought was not necessary because

2577
01:34:55,109 --> 01:34:53,440
he said that

2578
01:34:56,470 --> 01:34:55,119
there was a picture that she put up on

2579
01:34:57,910 --> 01:34:56,480
her website and i think she was charging

2580
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:57,920
for it it turned out to be from some

2581
01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:00,719
game video game and she's like what and

2582
01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:02,320
i don't know if she didn't know what he

2583
01:35:05,189 --> 01:35:03,440
was talking about or she was just

2584
01:35:06,629 --> 01:35:05,199
playing dumb but she's like what picture

2585
01:35:08,149 --> 01:35:06,639
and he did not have the picture to show

2586
01:35:11,189 --> 01:35:08,159
her so it's like you need to be able to

2587
01:35:12,629 --> 01:35:11,199
least show her um

2588
01:35:14,629 --> 01:35:12,639
so it was definitely uncomfortable i

2589
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:14,639
think there was like 20 second pause

2590
01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:16,400
there where kurt was just silent and i

2591
01:35:19,270 --> 01:35:17,440
think he might have been looking at

2592
01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:19,280
questions but it was the longest pause

2593
01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:21,119
i've ever seen in an interview it was

2594
01:35:27,109 --> 01:35:22,800
really uncomfortable

2595
01:35:31,350 --> 01:35:29,109
overall

2596
01:35:35,990 --> 01:35:31,360
i enjoyed it but definitely

2597
01:35:40,790 --> 01:35:38,310
thanks troy um

2598
01:35:42,709 --> 01:35:40,800
yeah i know people love transcriptions

2599
01:35:44,550 --> 01:35:42,719
some people some people don't care

2600
01:35:45,990 --> 01:35:44,560
because they rather listen

2601
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:46,000
i would rather not be known as the

2602
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:47,760
transcriber that's why i'm doing more

2603
01:35:51,910 --> 01:35:49,920
youtube stuff because

2604
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:51,920
i love to give my opinion even though

2605
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:53,760
it's mostly speculation i mean most of

2606
01:35:58,229 --> 01:35:55,440
ufology is speculation we don't know

2607
01:35:59,510 --> 01:35:58,239
what the hell is going on

2608
01:36:01,510 --> 01:35:59,520
i'm gonna i'm gonna

2609
01:36:04,310 --> 01:36:01,520
call it a night this is a good first

2610
01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:04,320
step getting back on

2611
01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:06,400
23 people it's not bad for 11 o'clock on

2612
01:36:09,430 --> 01:36:07,920
the west coast people seem to have a

2613
01:36:11,590 --> 01:36:09,440
difficult time to

2614
01:36:13,669 --> 01:36:11,600
when's distinguishing when someone is

2615
01:36:15,350 --> 01:36:13,679
just relaying information

2616
01:36:18,149 --> 01:36:15,360
when they are claiming it to be true

2617
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:18,159
that is a really good point

2618
01:36:21,910 --> 01:36:20,000
yeah if i share information

2619
01:36:23,750 --> 01:36:21,920
people will sometimes get on my case and

2620
01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:23,760
i'm like listen just because i shared it

2621
01:36:28,310 --> 01:36:25,679
doesn't mean i believe this is the case

2622
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,320
although if i'm sharing it i probably

2623
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:30,719
find it interesting enough to share

2624
01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:32,000
so

2625
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:34,000
i usually every couple of days i'll say

2626
01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:36,239
make sure i i don't know what's going on

2627
01:36:42,070 --> 01:36:39,440
i do not know i have

2628
01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:42,080
one time i had somebody quote unquote

2629
01:36:46,629 --> 01:36:44,480
source give me an idea of what was going

2630
01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:46,639
on it was the zoo theory

2631
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,560
ets interdimensionals time travelers

2632
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:52,719
and all that stuff but then there's

2633
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:54,719
somebody else who has access to data

2634
01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:55,840
telling me

2635
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:57,199
we don't know we don't know if it's one

2636
01:37:01,430 --> 01:36:58,719
intelligence or multiple it's really

2637
01:37:03,189 --> 01:37:01,440
hard it's contradictory information so

2638
01:37:05,189 --> 01:37:03,199
don't know

2639
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:05,199
both sources are really smart really

2640
01:37:09,750 --> 01:37:07,600
smart people all those folks anybody who

2641
01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:09,760
i speak to

2642
01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:12,560
they're all smart people

2643
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:18,310
one of the biggest issues in this

2644
01:37:21,990 --> 01:37:19,840
community is one of ego everybody wants

2645
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:22,000
to be the first to call because

2646
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:23,440
they don't want to feel stupid in case

2647
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:34,229
there's more there

2648
01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:37,350
the fear of i don't see it but

2649
01:37:42,310 --> 01:37:39,760
yeah um

2650
01:37:43,910 --> 01:37:42,320
the thing today i called bs on because

2651
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:43,920
it was just a person claiming to know

2652
01:37:47,189 --> 01:37:45,679
what was going on and given dates it's

2653
01:37:48,629 --> 01:37:47,199
like no this

2654
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:48,639
you give dates you're going to be wrong

2655
01:37:51,910 --> 01:37:50,159
99.9

2656
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:51,920
of the time i'm such a

2657
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:54,400
and i think

2658
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:55,760
i'm trying to think i was thinking

2659
01:38:02,229 --> 01:38:00,550
why i react that way to certain things

2660
01:38:04,470 --> 01:38:02,239
and maybe it's like because people are

2661
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:04,480
saying this is how it is maybe i flash

2662
01:38:08,390 --> 01:38:06,000
back to my earlier years when i was

2663
01:38:10,149 --> 01:38:08,400
younger and i was i had religion pushed

2664
01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:10,159
down my throat this is how it is so

2665
01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:12,400
maybe that's part of why i react

2666
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:14,239
negatively i just don't like people tell

2667
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:15,119
me

2668
01:38:19,350 --> 01:38:17,440
this is how it is sorry um like all

2669
01:38:21,030 --> 01:38:19,360
right fine i'm really not gonna engage

2670
01:38:22,229 --> 01:38:21,040
with somebody like that if somebody says

2671
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:22,239
you know what

2672
01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:24,719
i think this might be going on like this

2673
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:26,560
then that's fine

2674
01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:28,080
but i don't react well when they say

2675
01:38:34,390 --> 01:38:30,639
this is it i know this i know this i

2676
01:38:37,750 --> 01:38:35,910
easy to read transcriptions when i'm at

2677
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:37,760
work yes i know some people it's good

2678
01:38:43,030 --> 01:38:38,880
and

2679
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:43,040
need to put this on a blog i mean i need

2680
01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:44,639
to put this on a

2681
01:38:48,790 --> 01:38:46,480
podcast i think there's a free one out

2682
01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:48,800
there where i could put these into audio

2683
01:38:52,149 --> 01:38:50,480
because i know some people said put it

2684
01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:52,159
into audio and i could listen to it and

2685
01:38:56,550 --> 01:38:54,639
i have not done it and i apologize

2686
01:38:59,350 --> 01:38:56,560
i apologize i was gone for such a long

2687
01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:59,360
time from here but i i i just need to do

2688
01:39:02,070 --> 01:39:00,320
it

2689
01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:02,080
and then once i do these live streams i

2690
01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:03,600
can just transfer it over to a podcast

2691
01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:05,280
so if somebody's driving it's easier to

2692
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:07,440
listen to then i know youtube unless you

2693
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:10,080
pay for the the pr the premium

2694
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:11,679
youtube will shut off a lot of the times

2695
01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:13,440
it's easier if somebody has an audio

2696
01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:14,400
file

2697
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:16,639
on one of those podcast channels or

2698
01:39:25,189 --> 01:39:23,189
oh

2699
01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:25,199
the fear of being taken for a ride on

2700
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:26,880
being double

2701
01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:29,679
i'm not a yeah it's like for me

2702
01:39:33,030 --> 01:39:31,360
i just think it's it's if people are

2703
01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:33,040
putting out information that it seems

2704
01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:35,840
just so out there and it's just

2705
01:39:39,030 --> 01:39:37,760
i mean a lot of stuff i put out that

2706
01:39:41,189 --> 01:39:39,040
there are people that think it's out

2707
01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:41,199
there i'm definitely not afraid of being

2708
01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:42,400
wrong

2709
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:42,820
um

2710
01:39:46,229 --> 01:39:44,400
[Music]

2711
01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:46,239
i just i'm i have no problem with

2712
01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:48,400
theories i just it's just that when

2713
01:39:52,830 --> 01:39:50,080
people are so sure of themselves that's

2714
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:52,840
where i just react i react

2715
01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:55,520
negatively thanks gabby i will i will

2716
01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:58,320
make sure right now i have no work

2717
01:40:01,510 --> 01:40:00,159
scheduled and i have to change that so

2718
01:40:03,669 --> 01:40:01,520
there will be times where i'm just not

2719
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:03,679
going to be able to do this but

2720
01:40:08,229 --> 01:40:06,159
yeah i'm glad i got i came and did this

2721
01:40:09,910 --> 01:40:08,239
tonight i was gonna tweet and say you

2722
01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:09,920
know what guys i don't feel up to it i'm

2723
01:40:14,310 --> 01:40:12,159
like nope gotta do it gotta get back

2724
01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:14,320
gotta start doing it again so i'm glad

2725
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:17,119
every you guys could be here

2726
01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:19,040
thanks jeff and thanks for the questions

2727
01:40:23,669 --> 01:40:20,639
everybody it was good because i don't

2728
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:23,679
have a ton of stuff prepared

2729
01:40:27,510 --> 01:40:24,960
and um

2730
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:27,520
i will do these more often

2731
01:40:30,550 --> 01:40:28,719
one more thing

2732
01:40:32,550 --> 01:40:30,560
i think i said that yeah

2733
01:40:34,310 --> 01:40:32,560
marik from the hill great articles he's

2734
01:40:35,669 --> 01:40:34,320
written for the hill he's also says he

2735
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:35,679
doesn't think roswell was a cover-up

2736
01:40:38,629 --> 01:40:37,199
because there's too many people would

2737
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:38,639
have to be involved in the cover-up i

2738
01:40:46,709 --> 01:40:44,870
but you know until we actually see the

2739
01:40:49,750 --> 01:40:46,719
craft we're not going to know for sure

2740
01:40:53,669 --> 01:40:51,750
lots of lots of great interviews lately

2741
01:40:55,189 --> 01:40:53,679
gary nolan lex friedman i still haven't

2742
01:40:57,189 --> 01:40:55,199
listened to all of it but anyway all

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right i'm gonna go thanks guys i will

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talk to you soon it's not gonna be

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another month and a half before i do a